So you guys who are on SS, do you do any exercises other than those? And how many days a week do you train? Do you do any cardio?
Originally Posted by milesdyson
i don't do cardio, i only do those lifts, i train 3x per week. answers to all of these are in the wiki.
Meh. This is a fair question for people like you and I who have actually done the program. He wants personal input.
I played baseball (and some pickup basketball) during most of my SS novice phase. It interfered slightly with my lifting schedule, though not terribly so. I did not do any other major exercises with the exception of dynamic stretching, light DB work, wrist weights, some sit-ups occasionally, and some sprints/light jogging. My progress was rapid and sustainable.
Currently I am on a program very similar to SS called the Practical Programming Advanced Novice program, with some sport-specific modifications (lol unilateral work).
I know that you will think that it's not enough work the first few weeks, or possibly even months (if you start at too low starting weights). Rest assured that it gets very, very hard in short order. But if you really want to add things, assisted/jumping chin-ups and ab work (planks, reverse crunches, Pallof Presses) would be okay in moderation.
Wow wtf this must a record. H+F tell OP to do SS and he does a SS type workout on the same day?
It's not great but it's def a start.
Squat first, then bench, then dead. And def get videos posted. I was a little weirded out about bringing a video camera to the gym at first, but now I do it every single time. It's really important to make sure you get the form right, especially for people like me who have low reading comprehension when it comes to stuff about anatomy.
I'm confident that I couldn't even do any chinups at this point. I mean, it's not a lot of work, but it is a lot of work. The exercises while few, are very tough and it will take time getting used to them. Like I mentioned in the original post, I have been neglecting my legs for a long time. I'm also going to be mixing in some cardio and stuff. My goal isn't to be some SS master, it's to lose a lot of fat, and get in much better shape. But I'm going to be doing this, and maybe adding a couple extra things to it if I find them necessary, or if I'm able.
So I gotta buy a book for you people to listen to anything I have to say? Sounds like a mammoth scam.
The SS book is not really about the routine, it's about the lifts and how to do them properly. That's why we keep referring to it when someone says he doesn't know how to squat/dl/bench/power clean. It's a gold mine of knowledge about correct and safe form and answers all the questions about machines and other silly stuff. That's why you should buy it and read it. The programming is a tiny bit of the book and completely explained in the wiki that's linked in the faq.
I was going to lift today, but my legs are much more sore today than they were yesterday, so I'm hoping for tomorrow or Saturday maybe. I will post what I do. I've been watching a lot of the vids on the wiki, and I might give some power cleans and presses a try at really low weights to try and develop comfort.
"It is called Starting Strength, and it's the best program out there for burning fat and building muscle = looking sexy. There is a lot of information about it on the SS wiki. "
There probably isn't a best program for everyone.
Not sure powercleans are a good idea at this time since they are so technical. I got by using bent over rows when I did starting strength, but in hindsight I'd think that seated rows or 1 arm bent over rows would have been better. I read somewhere that the bent over row uses such a large amount of muscle, that the neural impulses to the back are inhibited slightly since the CNS is busy with a bunch of other muscles because of the nature of the exercise.
Not nearly as sore this week as I was from the work last week (though that may be due to less work), but that's a good thing so that I will be able to get into the gym with no problem tomorrow and really put a good week of work in. I will be going over that link from Miles later and working with that. I'm genuinely looking forward to getting back in the gym this week, and continuing to forge steel.
So, let me see if I understand this whole "bro" thing.
Bros are guys in the gym who are there just to look good. They do all kinds of splits, just working biceps and triceps, basically beach muscles. Not interested in upping weight, and moving forward or gaining strength, just into looking good on the beach or trying to attract females (or like-minded males). They don't do compound exercises like squats, deadlifts, or power cleans. They probably gel their hair and have tribal band tattoos. They mostly wear Ed Hardy clothing, including bedazzled hats at the gym. They have large upper bodies and skinny chicken legs. H&F posters disrespect them greatly.
You nailed 95% of it for sure. Well done. Occasionally, as deaders pointed out, they will try to justify their work with "broscience," which is a bunch of BS that sounds good but in reality has no basis in fact.
I want to point out also that, while I'm just starting the SS thing, I haven't received my book yet (but it should be here any day now) so I'm not doing every exercise just yet...but I'm digging it. It gives you a greater sense of accomplishment doing all those complex, more difficult lifts. The soreness has subsided greatly from the first session, and I'm feeling more solid with all the lifts. I'm looking forward to getting the book and really getting into it and learning more lifts and refining my form. I just want to thank HF for all your help, and give SS my recommendation also.