Only you know if you are starving yourself. It's huge to get the protein and still be below maintenance. I kinda made the same point in JF's thread, that your better off putting on lbm while you can then cut and maintain. That said, I see nothing wrong with what you are doing. I don't know what your maintenance is but I think at those numbers you could be close to dropping 8lbs in a month. Obv unsustainable tho. Do what feels right. If I were you I'd prob do what your doing for another 4/6 weeks, get down to 195ish and then take a 2 week break at maintenance and lift heavyy. Then look to drop like 3/5 lbs/mo over 4/6 months, while lifting heavy, not just to maintain but to gain. Or just lift real heavy for 2 mo then cut and maintain.

Cool, thanks. I'm going to do this for as long as I can, and see what kind of results I get. There are a few things coming up that are going to knock me off the diet for a couple days here and there, so I feel like it's still not getting the fairest shake...but I think I should be able to do it for a couple months. Then we'll see what we have I guess.

Not that I don't think bolded can't be done, but I'll just quote Lyle again:

ETA: basically, going under 25% of maintenance calories (on average) is probably not a good idea to preserve LBM. And yeah, I'm more or less directly quoting Lyle here.

I based that suggestion on my own experience. I went from 205 to 185 while maintaining most of my numbers. Squat 5rm actually went up 5lbs. I am biased from my experience I suppose.

Yeah, we all are. I have no problems believing younger guys who are more dedicated and with better genetics will get way better results than my semi-old ass.

lyle also thought it impossible for someone to squat like 315 for 3x5 after 3-4 months of training.

Was tired and didn't want to go to the gym...but went, and brought the ruckus! Not all the ruckus, some of it I left in the trunk.

Squats 3x3 255. Pretty good, no real problems with the bar, made sure it was even and everything, and worked so it didn't roll down my back. Pretty pleased with this and will be going heavier next week.

Press 3x5 110. These were real good as well, tough too. Barely got up the last rep on the last set.

Assisted chins- 1x5 55 2x3 55

Flat bar curls 1x8 70 1x5 70 1x4 70

Swiss ball crunches 4x25

2310 cal. 340g protein 59g fat

Dominated my numbers on lifting day. Without getting three protein shakes in. Take that ya fat bastard!

1970 cal. 214g protein 28g fat

F you insomnia.

1510 cal. 197g protein 35g fat

And then went out and had a lot of drinks. Different ones. No beers. Some Jamey on the rocks, greyhounds (personal favorite), and a couple energy drink plus vodkas.

Today it's going to be mad tilapia tacos...I won't have numbers though. It won't be too terrible. But, so many delicious blackened tilapia tacos.

Played hockey today for the first time in at least 3 years. Worked hard out there. Still suck ass, only now I'm rusty and I suck ass. Going to be in some pain tomorrow.

1798 cal. 219.5g protein 30g fat

Down to 205 lbs. as of this morning. The lowest weight I've been in like 2 years. And it's only going lower. This pleases me.

Nice effing work. Title change imminent?

Thanks, but to me, the title is still apt. It might change when my goals do...I don't know. Just still eyeing the prize...though I'm not sure exactly what that prize is...

1752 cal. 211g protein 29g fat

sick macros bro

Yea, for real. Maybe this was covered but how are you getting your protein?

Are you hungry a lot?

I'm picturing Malucci has turned into a full-on carnivore and accidentally eats some grass while devouring his kill.

I'll post a couple days of my food log and let you guys flame me...and yeah, I go to bed hungry as hell most nights.

9/20/10- 1600-1900 calories >210g protein <50g fat

Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Fish Oil- 60 cal. 0g protein 6g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
258.5g pasta sauce- 162 cal. 4g protein 5g fat
410g chicken- 434 cal. 80.5g protein 12g fat
118g pasta- 422 cal. 15g protein 3g fat

1798 cal. 219.5g protein 30g fat

9/21/10- 1600-1900 calories >210g protein <50g fat

258.5g pasta sauce- 162 cal. 4g protein 5g fat
367g chicken- 388 cal. 72g protein 11g fat
118g pasta- 422 cal. 15g protein 3g fat
Fish Oil- 60 cal. 0g protein 6g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat


1752 cal. 211g protein 29g fat

9/14/10- 1600-1900 calories >210g protein <50g fat

Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Fish Oil- 60 cal. 0g protein 6g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
BK Tendergrill w/o mayo- 360 cal. 55g protein 7g fat
Double whopper jr. no mayo- 370 cal. 22g protein 18g fat
BK Tendergrill w/o mayo- 360 cal. 55g protein 7g fat

1870 cal. 252g protein 42g fat

9/15/10- 1600-1900 calories >210g protein <50g fat

Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Fish Oil- 60 cal. 0g protein 6g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Tortilla- 130 cal. 4g protein 2g fat
1 egg- 70 cal. 6g protein 4.5g fat
3 egg whites- 51 cal. 12g protein 0g fat
28g muenster- 100 cal. 6g protein 8g fat
374g shrimp- 264 cal. 57g protein 0g fat
112g ronzoni smart taste rotini- 360 cal. 12g protein 2g fat
2 tsp. EVOO- 80 cal. 0g protein 10g fat

1835 cal. 217g protein 36.5g fat

9/16/10- 2100-2500 calories >315g protein 50-70g fat

Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
Fish Oil- 60 cal. 0g protein 6g fat
2 BK tender grills no mayo- 720 cal. 110g protein 14g fat
Grande iced Americano- 20 cal. 1g protein 0g fat
Protein shake- 360 cal. 60g protein 2g fat
KFC Grilled double down- 480 cal. 60g protein 25g fat
KFC Grilled filet-140 cal. 26g protein 3g fat
KFC original recipe filet- 170 cal 23g protein 7g fat

2310 cal. 340g protein 59g fat

Let me know how terrible this is, and I will fix it.

Squats 3x5 230. Good.

Bench 1x3 185 2x4 185. Need a spotter. Hate asking renobs for spots. Always a fail. But I guess it beats getting weaker?

Deadlifts. 2x1 275. There was about a minute break between these two reps...?

Roman chair leglifts 3x15

2580 cal. 367g protein 50g fat

1500 cal. 230 protein 24g fat

This is what I had up until the moment I started boozing...and I'm about to start boozing.

Squats 3x3 265. Pretty good, I think I need a belt, form probably wasn't perfect. Well definitely wasn't perfect. But there is strength somewhere in here.

Press 2x3 125 1x2 125. Almost got that last rep up. Next time.

Neutral grip pull ups!!!!!!! 3x3! There was a little kipping in the last one, maybe two...but this is the first time I've been able to pull my fat ****ing ass up without using some lame female's machine. Yes, laugh it up all you skinny dicks, but baby's pretty pleased with this new development.

Seated alternating dumbbell curls 1x10 25 2x8 30

Good day, and it's only getting better, buddy is coming into town in a couple hours, and it's All you can eat Sushi day...I'm going to punish those dumb bastards...