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08-15-2018 , 01:42 PM
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But that it didn't even cross your mind to ask her for her number til later, means she is marginal at best for you.
No it means this was the literal first date of my life and I don't know wtf I'm doing. I most def like her.
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08-15-2018 , 01:56 PM
Well spin the truth.

Truth: It was my first date ever and I cracked under pressure.

Spinned truth: I was a little bit nervous this time, but let's do it again! What's your number?
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08-15-2018 , 01:58 PM
I met my girlfriend on bumble by the way so it's not like I am coming completely from left field, even though we are different generations.
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08-16-2018 , 08:53 AM
Congrats on the date!

I like loco's spinned truth.
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08-16-2018 , 12:32 PM
u need to read his book 10-15 times.

i learn from the best. ccw and ams.

if i were ccw:

bumble girl: ::looking for krunic to say something::
krunic: hey its getting pretty late, and i had a long week... why dont we grab a bottle of wine and head back to my place? maybe pop in a blue ray?
bumble girl: ::i would love that
krunic: ::buys chardonnay at the local liquor store::
bumble girl: chardonanay, my fav

::both head back to his place and drink wine and pop in a blue ray::


u freeze up bc u didnt read his stuff 10-15 times like he said. it should be automatic once u read it a couple times...
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08-16-2018 , 03:01 PM
N1,

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u need to read his book 10-15 times.
I read 3% Man once and that's plenty. I don't know who/what ams is.

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hey its getting pretty late, and i had a long week
This was a brunch date on a wednesday, that would be a strange thing to say at 11:30am on a wednesday. I also told her that I quit my job 2 weeks ago so she knows I'm not working.

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why dont we grab a bottle of wine and head back to my place?
I don't drink. This is a 37 year old adult woman with 2 kids, you think she wants to get drunk in the early afternoon on weekdays? I don't date bipolar 25 year old ex-hookers or 18 year old baristas, not that there's anything wrong with that.

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maybe pop in a blue ray?
lol, I didn't even know they still make those. Is that what you've been wasting your money on?

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u freeze up bc u didnt read his stuff 10-15 times like he said. it should be automatic once u read it a couple times...
If the above advice is what ccw would say (narrator: "it's not") then maybe I shouldn't.
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08-16-2018 , 04:00 PM
Bumble can be very entertaining. I just swiped left on a morbidly obese woman who listed her occupation as dietition.

Also I've noticed that in group photos, the woman in question is the not the best looking one >90% of the time. You'd think women would be smarter about that. If a woman ever asks me for dating profile advice I'll just tell her to use all solo photos without any filters.
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08-16-2018 , 05:14 PM
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Bumble can be very entertaining. I just swiped left on a morbidly obese woman who listed her occupation as dietition.
At least she has a sense of humor.

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i learn
I'm not convinced.
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08-25-2018 , 09:51 AM
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Also I've noticed that in group photos, the woman in question is the not the best looking one >90% of the time. You'd think women would be smarter about that. If a woman ever asks me for dating profile advice I'll just tell her to use all solo photos without any filters.
You know about FGAS also right?

The group shot thing is the same idea in bars. The less attractive hangs with attractive to boost their appeal.
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08-25-2018 , 01:34 PM
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You know about FGAS also right?
No?
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08-25-2018 , 03:46 PM
I am bipolar and suffer from anxiety similar to yours. Unable to leave house, can't talk to people, the works. A ketogenic diet cured me 100%. It is now clinically being used for PTSD, depression, autism, bipolar and other mental issues. Physiologically it regulates certain brain chemicals that attribute to these disease. I could go on and on but in 2 weeks you could have an entirely new outlook on life
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08-25-2018 , 04:08 PM
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Despite its long history in neurology, the role of KD in mental disorders is unclear. Half of the published studies are based on animal models of mental disorders with limited generalizability to the analog conditions in humans. The review lists some major limitations including the lack of measuring ketone levels in four studies and the issue of compliance to the rigid diet in humans. Currently, there is insufficient evidence for the use of KD in mental disorders, and it is not a recommended treatment option. Future research should include long-term, prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled crossover dietary trials to examine the effect of KD in various mental disorders.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...017.00043/full

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Preclinical studies, case reports and case series have demonstrated antidepressant and mood stabilizing effects of KD, however, to date, no clinical trials for depression or bipolar disorder have been conducted.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...49763418303762
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08-25-2018 , 04:14 PM
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I think people without anxiety could understand it, but most people without anxiety don't realize how much meds are needed in some cases and how much work it takes to treat anxiety.

Have you seen a therapist? I really think it would help you, considering this and your eating issues. Have you at least tried some over the counter anti-anxiety stuff like valerian root, passionflower, tryptophan, theanine?

There were a few years where I used alcohol as a medication for anxiety. It worked... until it didn't. One day I noticed that whenever I drank alcohol I got short of breath, so I had to stop. And when I say it "worked" for a few years I mean it just suppressed my thoughts/feelings temporarily. It never helped me get to the root of the problem, in fact it makes it much more difficult.

You gotta feel your feels bro.
The problem with meds is they are usually treating a problem you don't have, and can make things worse. For some idiotic reason these company's are targeting seratonin as the only cause of anxiety and depression. There are many things that can be attributed to your illness (dopamine, gaba, glutamate, epinephrine, nor epinephrine etc etc). If seratonin isn't your main cause its just masking a problem, or making it worse. These drugs work, but its clear , atleast to me, we do not have the diagnosis tools to get you the drugs that you actually need. You will be on a lifelong journey finding that magicAl cocktail that regulates exactly what you may need. Ontop of that you need to nail the dose, maybe your on the right drugs but wrong dose, etc etc etc. I am absolutely disgusted with the current state of mental illness treatment , including the Dr's. I used to be more PC about it and respectful but peoples lives are on the line. There are so many things out that are help8ng people but mention it to a doc who hasn't read a thing since med school in 78 and he or she laughs and opens his prescription pad. I am reading your story and it might as well be me, there are things that help, and you can get better, but finding them isn't always so easy especially when the people you should trust the most have their heads up their ass

Edit: when I say cured that is wrong, I am never cured. Much like an addict I wake every day knowing I'm one bad decision away from spiraling . The keto diet has kept me on this path effortlessly after 30 years of hell. I now have more energy and mental stability then anyone I know, which says a lot coming from someone who would spend weeks in his room

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08-25-2018 , 04:29 PM
First off I would not like this to be a debate, I am only here to help. Would be more then happy to start another thread for that. That being said I certainly understand the need for people to be held accountable for what they post especially in a thread like this. I am aware of multiple papers being reviewed that used a KD for PTSD that look very promising. I know of 3 published papers that have used it on depression which I will try and find and post. There has been lots of testing on what it does to the brain, and for some reason it "magically " creates a homeostasis of very key chemicals related to mental health. It regulates gaba, glutamine, glutamate and dopamine the most, which then have a down stream effect. N=1 is not a great argument , but a generally accepted stance is it does improve sleep and stabilize mood. Many silicon valley ceos swear by it. Long story long is group therapy and seeing a Dr works, but most people with severe mental illness will never make it because their disease prevents them from reaching out. Everyone is so quick to suggest drugs, would it be so bad to start off with a 2 week exercise plan with a keto diet before jumping into those murky waters
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08-25-2018 , 05:50 PM
krunic,

Good job going on your first date ever. That's a huge step forward, and I don't think it would have been possible without the rest of the work you've put in.

It's okay if you didn't think to ask for the number, or if it takes you a while to get comfortable asking for a number or a second date in the moment. These are all proximal behaviors, and you'll get better at them each time.

Did you talk to your first date again? Any more Bumble prospects?
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08-25-2018 , 07:21 PM
GTO,

That's awesome that you found a near cure for those issues just by changing your diet. I've experimented with diet changes a lot. What I've found is that it helped to reduce my total carb intake (my diet was like 75% carbs 4+ years ago) but not too much. If I restrict carbs to below about 50g/day it makes my anxiety worse, and I have a lot of trouble sleeping. I can't eat a ton of sugar like I used to, but I need about 100-150g/day of starchy vegetables or grains. Oatmeal is especially good for me. If I'm really anxious and then eat 50g of oatmeal it's almost like taking a xanax.
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08-25-2018 , 07:26 PM
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Everyone is so quick to suggest drugs, would it be so bad to start off with a 2 week exercise plan with a keto diet before jumping into those murky waters
Speaking from experience with severe depression, this is a complete fantasy. The problem with depressed people is not that they're unaware of the health benefits of exercise and a healthy diet. The problem is they struggle to get out of bed, let alone go to the gym or run a few miles or make a salmon and kale salad.

Medication is very often the first option because it's the only option that the patient is willing and capable of doing.
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08-25-2018 , 07:32 PM
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krunic,

Good job going on your first date ever. That's a huge step forward, and I don't think it would have been possible without the rest of the work you've put in.

It's okay if you didn't think to ask for the number, or if it takes you a while to get comfortable asking for a number or a second date in the moment. These are all proximal behaviors, and you'll get better at them each time.

Did you talk to your first date again? Any more Bumble prospects?
I messaged her the next day to say I had a good time and would like to see her again, but I'm starting a new job this week and don't know what my schedule is going to look like. She responded 3 days later saying she expects to be really busy with work for the next few months and wanted "to take a hiatus from dating." So that's that.

I got a few more matches but I don't want to pursue any at the moment. I feel I've been having a minor manic episode the last week or so.
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08-25-2018 , 07:47 PM
I hear you, dude. As a fellow anxiety-ridden depressive guy, I would probably feel the same way if I took some of the same chances you have taken lately. That's great that you are taking those chances, though. Someone from a different program told me, "A life dedicated to avoiding pain will always result in addiction and dysfunction. Always." So I am really proud of you for sticking with it and doing things that are good for you, even when they're hard and unpleasant, even painful.

For me, I just try to be patient with myself these days and accept when I feel anxious, depressed, or manic so that I don't feel anxious, depressed, or manic about feeling anxious, depressed, or manic. Such a vicious cycle
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08-29-2018 , 06:38 PM
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GTO,

That's awesome that you found a near cure for those issues just by changing your diet. I've experimented with diet changes a lot. What I've found is that it helped to reduce my total carb intake (my diet was like 75% carbs 4+ years ago) but not too much. If I restrict carbs to below about 50g/day it makes my anxiety worse, and I have a lot of trouble sleeping. I can't eat a ton of sugar like I used to, but I need about 100-150g/day of starchy vegetables or grains. Oatmeal is especially good for me. If I'm really anxious and then eat 50g of oatmeal it's almost like taking a xanax.

Low blood sugar causes anxiety, even in people who don't generally experience anxiety, we just feel it 10x worse. That is the problem when trying to do a keto diet, first you have to completely deplete your glycogen stores, which means 2-3 days of low blood sugar and feeling like crap and sometimes symptoms worsening. Once your body has deleted its glycogen it will start making ketones and that's when the magic happens. For me days 1-3 were always torture. If your interested try 2 days zero carb just salads and maybe very small servings of protein to deplete glycogen, then day 3 start high fat. You'll need a glucose/keto monitor they are only about 20$
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08-29-2018 , 06:45 PM
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Speaking from experience with severe depression, this is a complete fantasy. The problem with depressed people is not that they're unaware of the health benefits of exercise and a healthy diet. The problem is they struggle to get out of bed, let alone go to the gym or run a few miles or make a salmon and kale salad.

Medication is very often the first option because it's the only option that the patient is willing and capable of doing.
While I agree when depressed even getting out of bed is a huge struggle, you can't say that then suggest someone in that state find a Dr, call, make an appt, and then talk about their problems to get drugs. Trust me I know what its like to be in bed for days praying ill wake up with just enough energy to get up.

I don't want to come in here on my high horse, but I am yet to work with someone who hasn't come off meds and feel better then they ever did on a keto diet. Of course there needs to be a step 1 of getting up and trying it, but if someone in that state comes in here and reads this, maybe the thought of just changing your diet and having 50% less symptoms is enough to get started. It also always helps hearing from people who have struggled with things you have. I have no alterior motive or anything to gain then to help some people struggling
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09-15-2018 , 03:13 AM
I still lift but I don't log it here anymore. It doesn't motivate me to post my workouts here, and there's no reason for anyone to care that I did 4 sets of 20 pushups or whatever.

Have not been Bumbling much, but I did see the greatest bio in the world the other day. It said:

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Her?
My former boss got me in touch with a good pastry chef who's the new corporate pastry chef for a company that has 5 or 6 places downtown, and he decided to give me a job at a casual italian restaurant. They previously didn't have a pastry chef at all so he's trying to revamp the menu.

I made the huge mistake of taking the job without staging first (meaning working in the kitchen for a day). Smalllest dirtiest kitchen I've ever worked in. The other day I found a container of ramekins in the staff bathroom like 2 feet from the tiolet. The next day I found a box of canola oil in the same spot. There's **** all over the floor all day, they never have enough plates or utensils or anything really. The line cooks all suck and are constantly getting yelled at for putting unseasoned sauces or raw chicken in the window.

At first I was in a bit of shock but wanted to stick with it because the pastry chef is good and we were in agreement on lots of things that needed to change. After a couple weeks I got the impression that the kitchen has some fundamental management problems that the pastry chef can't solve and would make me hate working there even after the menu got changed and new pastry equipment was bought, etc.

It's not a nice feeling to tell people you got a new job at a restaurant and advising them to not eat there because the kitchen is gross and the staff imcompetent.

But I have another job lined up! A classmate from pastry school has a new bakery in logan square. When it opened a few months ago, she wanted me to work there from 3-11am. I was like nah can't do that. But now I guess business is doing well and she wants me to work 12-6pm to make entremets, eclairs, and other things I like. I start on the 25th.
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09-15-2018 , 05:37 AM
Sounds good! Share some of your work, if you don't mind
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09-15-2018 , 10:02 AM
That's great!

+1 to you sharing some of your work. I'd kill to see you and Soulman have a bake off.
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09-15-2018 , 10:46 AM
S&F official bake off odds

Cashy -200
Krunic +400
Soulman +900
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