I'm interested in all the anti-layne opinions. 2.5 weeks ago I was 160.0 on the dot during photo shoot. My calories were 2175 with 224 carbs 224 protein and rest fats (maybe like 48-52? Forget). Whatever, I had my 5k cheat day the following day. What would you suggest be my calories/ macros after that cheat day?

I actually like Layne in the grand scheme of things. He gives no bs advice and even though he nerds out he still stresses that they're very small factors. But a reverse diet ebook for 80 bucks is lolololol ******ed.

I'm not suggesting anything other than that it's no surprise your weight is stagnant / losing when you are in fact not eating very much.

Oh yeah I agree with that. That price is phucking crazy and only for the ebook lol.

Agreed completely with the reverse dieting bunkness + Layne likingness from KC. BUT, I do think reverse dieting has a purpose from the perspective of psychology, minimizing water weight/scale craziness, and re-acclimating your routine and hunger levels to higher calories.

Finally had some time to do my current measurements. Will take them again at the end of each bulk/cut.

10/23/14
No pump (upon waking up)

Weight- 159.8 lbs
Waist- 28" (around navel, not sucked in)
Wrist- 7"
Forearms- 10.5" (clench fist straight arm, below elbow)
Chest- 35.5"(relaxed no lat spread, around nips)
Ankle- 9" (right above where low socks cut off)
Calves- 15"
Thighs- 21" (right below ass)
Bicep- unflexed 12", flexed 13"

10/23/14
Week 2 day 4
Weight: 159.8

Legs/delts/abs

Leg press 5x6-8
230x8 x2
250x8 x2

Leg extensions 4x8
110x15
130x10
150x10

Lying leg curls 4x8
95x10 x3

BB seated press 4x6
95x10
115x8 x2
95x12

Cable cross overs 3x8
20x15
25x10 x2

Side raises 4x8
25x15 x2
30x12 x2

Stair master: (burnt 225 calories)
12:49

Those measurements don't make sense to me but neither do fakeb's. So we must all be measuring different. Doesn't matter as long as you can repeat it exactly the same way in one year.

No way your arms are 13". Those are like sphaggetti noodles. Evoken is coming in at 17". Cha at 18"+. And even Yugo and I come in at 15+".

Maybe those measurements are accurate. I mean your waist is so tiny, your arm looks massive. 28" waist? DAFUQ?!! I think you could technically fit into 26" jeans. Please don't commit a crime and go to jail. You will be split wide open.

Yooooooo you're in Boston wtffffff!?!?!?

PM me asap. Let's get smashed.

There is a high possibility I facked up the measurements. It was my first time doing them. I will almost guarantee my chest is off because can't see if tape is lined up correctly along back. I am pretty sure I messed up my arms too somehow. Seems like that should have been the easiest measurement though. Reason being is that I measured my client yesterday and his bis are the same size of mine and bigger flexed. The problem is that his arms are clearly smaller than mine. Only thing going for him is that he has short bis whereas I have long bis.

Haaha DAFUQ yourself. If I have a 28" waist that doesn't mean I can fit Into smaller pant size. Wat in dee fack are you talking about lol.

I'm gonna assume you thought you clicked and responded to someone else's log cuz I dunno where this came from.

10/24/14
Week 2 day 5
Weight: 160.2

Back/bis/traps

Pull ups 4x10
15 x3
8
Total: 53 in 5:02

DB rows 4x10
65x10
65x12
70x10 x2

Pendlay rows 3x10
155x10 x3

Supinated Cable rows 3x10
120x10 x2
140x10

Bent over rear delt raises 3x10
30x10
30x12 x2

Standing curls 4x10
35x9
30x10
30x9
25x10

Incline curls 4x10
25x10
25x8
20x11
20x10

DB shrugs 4x10
85x15
90x12
90x15
95x10

Stair master (225 calories burnt)
12:48

I'm curious if you've experimented with eating more fat? Something like 50% fat, 20% carb, 30% protein. I've only had time to read the first and last pages. Cool log.

Thanks bro. No I haven't. Have you? I wonder how much protein that would be. Roughly 2500 cals so that means 750 from protein. 750/4= 187.5 which actually is sufficient protein. The thing is that I truly believe based on my hormones I can always get away with high carbs so why not continue doing it. People who have been fat majority of their lives need lower carbs than me and would not have been successful on a carb cycle like I previously was based on their hormones.

10/24/14
Week 2 day 5
Weight: 160.2

Back/bis/traps

Pull ups 4x10
15 x3
8
Total: 53 in 5:02

DB rows 4x10
65x10
65x12
70x10 x2

Pendlay rows 3x10
155x10 x3

Supinated Cable rows 3x10
120x10 x2
140x10

Bent over rear delt raises 3x10
30x10
30x12 x2

Standing curls 4x10
35x9
30x10
30x9
25x10

Incline curls 4x10
25x10
25x8
20x11
20x10

DB shrugs 4x10
85x15
90x12
90x15
95x10

Stair master (225 calories burnt)
12:48

Macros
2,544 calories
65f/271c/218p

Weekly food porn

--> Dessert
100g low fat vanilla ice cream
2 Reece's pb cups
2 tbsp regular pb

570 calories
33f/65c/16p



--> Brunch
2 homemade protein pancakes
2 slices cheese
500g egg whites
3 90 calorie bread with homemade choc whey icing

837 calories
13f/67c/113p



--> Dessert
Homemade choc protein pudding
100 cal crust graham
1/4 cup honey roasted nuts

266 calories
9.9f/23.2c/21.1p

"food porn"

oh sweet

"egg whites"

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Hahahah facking pls mane. Gotta eat some crap foods for macro friendly foods.

You and Golden man, you and Golden.

I assumed you fatties would like the Reese's. Next time l'll post beer and orange chicken.

zoom out a little, too. im fat, not Mr. Magoo

10/25/14
Week 2 day 6
Weight: 158.8

Chest/tris/abs #2

DB flat bench 4x10
65x10 x4

BB incline bench 3x10
135x7
115x12
125x8/ 125x5 (20-30 sec rest)

BB decline bench 3x10
185x10 x2
185x8

Push ups 4xmax (130)
35
27
23
22
23
Total: 130

V bar Pushdowns 4x10
57.5x10 x2
57.5x12 x2

French press 3x10
60x8
60x10 x2

Close grip bench 3x10
115x12
125x8
115x10

Hanging bent knee hip raises 3x10
10 x3

Decline bench sit ups (60)
20 x3

Treadmill (140 calories burnt)
1.70 miles 12:52

Macros
2,572 calories
70f/303c/195p

If you guys were to recommend 2 Lyle must read books which would it be?

Guide to Flexible Dieting and I Walk in Two Worlds

I found the ebook online for flexible dieting. Just gonna read that. Did you read the stubborn fat/ 2.0 diet?