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04-14-2014 , 07:18 PM
No shiet. At 180 your abs are cottage cheesey. Fack, at 190 your abs would look like the back of Rosie O'donnell's legs.

You look best at 165. Zero debate. 172 ripped would probably be your genetic limit. So 7 lbs of muscle in the next decade. Be patient and you will get there. 5'9" Jacked 172.
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04-14-2014 , 07:25 PM
Trust me, gaining 30 lbs of fat doesn't change how you look thaaaat much...
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04-14-2014 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
No shiet. At 180 your abs are cottage cheesey. Fack, at 190 your abs would look like the back of Rosie O'donnell's legs.

You look best at 165. Zero debate. 172 ripped would probably be your genetic limit. So 7 lbs of muscle in the next decade. Be patient and you will get there. 5'9" Jacked 172.
Lmfao cottage cheesy, that is funny and accurate. Rosie o donnell? He said 190 not 200+ lbs lol. I dunno man, I personally thought I looked pretty good in December. I was bulking up from 164/165 lbs and hit 168/169 lbs and looked a lot better then I do now. That was when I filmed myself benching 225x9 and 280x1. Looks like from here on out if I gain 2 lbs LBM/year it's solid. How sad.
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04-14-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by saw7988
Trust me, gaining 30 lbs of fat doesn't change how you look thaaaat much...
Hahaha but the strength gainz are incredible.
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04-14-2014 , 11:11 PM
4/14/14
Upper body power

- gaining some strength back but have a long way to go. Kinda tilting but meh all about dem aesthetics, right?
- my buddy recently found out about this poker game nl100 and it's super soft. It's on one of my off days so once I graduate from academy hopefully I'll be able to play in that every week. Just very aggro donks that will get pissed at me for raising pre flop every hand I'm involved in.
- should be getting my tax return in a few weeks. Will be spending it on taking course to be a certified nutritionist. Hope it goes well. Not sure how much time I'm gonna have.

DB rows:
85x10
100x6
120x5 x4

Pull ups:
25x8 x3

Lat Pulldowns:
140x10 x2
160x10
160x7

BB flat bench:
45x15
95x8
135x8
185x5
205x5 x2
215x5

DB incline:
70x8
75x8 x2

DB seated shoulder press:
55x8
55x10

DB standing curls:
35x10
40x8 x2

Dips:
25x10
35x10
45x10 x2

Macros:
3,305 calories
65g fats
450g carbs
58g fiber
230g protein
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04-15-2014 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ExpectedV
Was the first part sarcastic? Can't tell lol.
Sarcastic? No.
Based on your postage you really do sound like a guy who will enjoy his life being a stooge for the power elite.

Spoiler:
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04-15-2014 , 04:30 AM
looool. H&F's favorite meth head holds a grudge against police, who woulda guessed?
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04-15-2014 , 04:59 AM
I got arrested once after a short car chase. Lol girl-driver, no way were we getting away.
Cops were after a good buddy of mine (who was in the same car) who at the time was one of the biggest pushas in town (a good law-abiding tax-paying citizen these days).

Unfortunately I had 3 eightballs of speed hidden in my shoe.
****ers kept me locked up for 3 days and tried their best to squeeze something out of me that they could use against my drug-kingpin buddy. **** that, I ain't no snitch.
I ended up in court and faced a fine. 150€ IIRC.

I guess I'll also be labeled a "junkie" in the cop-system for the rest of my life.
Ridiculous imo. I never did anything that harmed anyone else. Or even myself, for that matter. Lol laws.
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04-15-2014 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
Sarcastic? No.
Based on your postage you really do sound like a guy who will enjoy his life being a stooge for the power elite.

Spoiler:
Location: Finland
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04-15-2014 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
I got arrested once after a short car chase. Lol girl-driver, no way were we getting away.
Cops were after a good buddy of mine (who was in the same car) who at the time was one of the biggest pushas in town (a good law-abiding tax-paying citizen these days).

Unfortunately I had 3 eightballs of speed hidden in my shoe.
****ers kept me locked up for 3 days and tried their best to squeeze something out of me that they could use against my drug-kingpin buddy. **** that, I ain't no snitch.
I ended up in court and faced a fine. 150€ IIRC.

I guess I'll also be labeled a "junkie" in the cop-system for the rest of my life.
Ridiculous imo. I never did anything that harmed anyone else. Or even myself, for that matter. Lol laws.
I don't see what the problem is here? If you have a problem with getting locked up, don't carry narcotics and choose better people to hang out with.
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04-15-2014 , 12:50 PM
I used to work at a police station, so some insight from my personal experience.

If/when you become a cop you are gonna look fat anyways cause of the vest, so might as well bulk up. Also, aside from how well you take control and de-escalate a situation verbally (which I think is the #1 skill of a police officer) being physically intimidating is definitely effective in controlling situations. Obviously only so much you can do there at 5'9". Still 5'9" 200 lbs with monster guns is a lot more intimidating than 5'9" 160 with abz and veinz.

That is why female cops are often such hardasses and carry such a big chip around. It is real hard to be taken seriously by 200+ pound guys when you are 120-140.
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04-15-2014 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben
I used to work at a police station, so some insight from my personal experience.

If/when you become a cop you are gonna look fat anyways cause of the vest, so might as well bulk up. Also, aside from how well you take control and de-escalate a situation verbally (which I think is the #1 skill of a police officer) being physically intimidating is definitely effective in controlling situations. Obviously only so much you can do there at 5'9". Still 5'9" 200 lbs with monster guns is a lot more intimidating than 5'9" 160 with abz and veinz.

That is why female cops are often such hardasses and carry such a big chip around. It is real hard to be taken seriously by 200+ pound guys when you are 120-140.
In the future I'll prob bulk up to 190 lbs at some point but that's far in the future. Right now I am fine with 160-170 lbs range having abs and being vascular as well as being in good shape. I love feeling healthy all around and having some what bigger arms won't be a game changer. If more people act out against me I think they are likely to do it whether I am 160 lbs or 190 lbs.
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04-15-2014 , 04:37 PM
For the record I think anywhere between 10-15% bodyfat is healthier than anywhere <8%.
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04-15-2014 , 06:12 PM
Perhaps but my preference is 8-12%
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04-15-2014 , 09:54 PM
4/15/14
Lower body power

Weight: 170.0

- Starting to feel a bit leaner while gaining weight. Can't complain with that.

RDL:
135x8 x2
155x8

Squats:
45x10
95x8
135x8
155x8
175x6 x2

DL:
135x10
185x6
225x5
275x5 x4
295x5 (geared up)

Leg extensions:
70x12
115x8
145x8
160x8
175x8
175x10

Lying leg curls:
110x12
125x8

Standing calf raises:
290x10 x3

Cardio:
HIIT 20 mins (206 calories burnt)

Macros:
2,840 calories
69g fats
347g carbs
54g fiber
232g protein
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04-16-2014 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ExpectedV
Location: Finland
That's not your location, though?

Surely we have less corruption and **** and the power elite isn't as strong but it is there.

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Originally Posted by ExpectedV
I don't see what the problem is here? If you have a problem with getting locked up, don't carry narcotics.
The problem obviously is the stupid-ass drug laws.
If I have drugs in my possession or use them, that should not be anyone else's concern. It's my body. And lol victimless crimes.

I don't really do drugs of any kind, alcohol included, since I got my wife pregnant for the first time about 6 years ago, but if I were to, I'd like to buy them from a drugstore perfectly legally and pay tax on them.
Now the only way to get them is by supporting organized crime.

I mean if you really support the current drug legislation, you're either:
a.) misinformed
b.) too stupid to process information
c.) employed by / running an organization that makes $$$ from the current system; like politics, organized crime, law enforcement, juridistical system, for-profit prisons, alcohol industry, big pharma etc.

From a purely socio-economic point of view, current drug legislation is beyond insanity and stupidity.


As far as cops go, I'm sure that there are good and bad ones just like in any profession.

That said, when me and my buddies were arrested, we acted much more civilized than the other side of the law. I guess the pencil-dickers get their kicks out of using totally unnecessary force even in situations that definetely do not call for it.
I mean, we were calm and collected and sort of just shrugged to the situation.
cops OTOH, screaming their lungs out, waving their billysticks etc.

They kept me locked up for 3 days and tried every lowlife verbal tactic in their arsenal (no physical abuse, this is not 'Murica) to get me to give up something on my pusha-buddy.
I sticked to my story of buying it from an unknown dude in a bar and finally they gave up.

However, 2 weeks later they called me and outright lied to me that they had 'lost' my signed statement and asked me if I could come back to the station and re-sign a new one.
Obviously they had rigged the statement and were hoping that I'd sign it without reading it first.
Lowlife scumbags. Will never trust a cop.

A funny detail: one of the detectives questoning me was a kid I went to highschool with and hanged out with occasionally. I didn't know he had become a cop. To say the least, he was surprised to see me, too.

I'm not pissed that I was arrested or fined or locked up.
But I'm pissed that I'm labeled a junkie in the cop-system and have a criminal record which might stop some potential employers from employing me in the future, in case they do extensive background checks.
That is totally wrongful. All I did was get high on a substance the government doesn't get a direct cut from manufacturing and distributing.
I'm not the idiot who wrote the law.

Also, I don't appreciate the high depressants like alcohol or opiates produce. When I go out partying I actually want to feel good and have fun.
But there are no legal stimulants I can buy

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Originally Posted by ExpectedV
choose better people to hang out with.
The buddy of mine who at the time used to push, is a very well-natured fella with high moral values and ****.
He'd never ever sell anything to minors and had this "drugs in one hand, cash in another"-policy because he didn't want to put himself in a position where he'd need to potentially violently go after people who owed money to him.

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04-16-2014 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by saw7988
For the record I think anywhere between 10-15% bodyfat is healthier than anywhere <8%.
Isn't the consensus kinda shifting more towards believing that the health problems of fatties are more caused from being physically inactive rather than being fat?

So you could probably make that 20-25% vs <8% assuming similar activity levels... or should I read less fat acceptance articles?
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04-16-2014 , 04:57 AM
Skip the Jezebel (or weth that Monte's favorite website was), bro.
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04-16-2014 , 09:08 AM
Pummi,

I got a message from the HAES collective that you were body shamed, and that's not ok. No one should be made to feel that their tiny but somehow flabby and weak body is anything less than beautiful and perfect, especially since you hid most of your track marks in between your toes.

This is a safe place -- well, not this log specifically, because EV is a cop and as such solely concerned with enforcing unjust laws and taking away your rights for hahas -- I was talking more about the loving maternal bosomy embrace of this forum. In any case, hopefully you can forgive saw and chinz; they're a product of #BIGPatriarchy, and at least one of them is probably a little overweight too (AND THAT'S OK) and is lashing out at others because of the disgust and revulsion for his own body that he's been programmed to feel. Come into the light jiggly bros!
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04-16-2014 , 09:16 AM
Monte doing work. EV too but I'm just here for the lels this morning...
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04-16-2014 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
The problem obviously is the stupid-ass drug laws.
If I have drugs in my possession or use them, that should not be anyone else's concern. It's my body. And lol victimless crimes.

I don't really do drugs of any kind, alcohol included, since I got my wife pregnant for the first time about 6 years ago, but if I were to, I'd like to buy them from a drugstore perfectly legally and pay tax on them.
Now the only way to get them is by supporting organized crime.

I mean if you really support the current drug legislation, you're either:
a.) misinformed
b.) too stupid to process information
c.) employed by / running an organization that makes $$$ from the current system; like politics, organized crime, law enforcement, juridistical system, for-profit prisons, alcohol industry, big pharma etc.

From a purely socio-economic point of view, current drug legislation is beyond insanity and stupidity.


As far as cops go, I'm sure that there are good and bad ones just like in any profession.

That said, when me and my buddies were arrested, we acted much more civilized than the other side of the law. I guess the pencil-dickers get their kicks out of using totally unnecessary force even in situations that definetely do not call for it.
I mean, we were calm and collected and sort of just shrugged to the situation.
cops OTOH, screaming their lungs out, waving their billysticks etc.

They kept me locked up for 3 days and tried every lowlife verbal tactic in their arsenal (no physical abuse, this is not 'Murica) to get me to give up something on my pusha-buddy.
I sticked to my story of buying it from an unknown dude in a bar and finally they gave up.

However, 2 weeks later they called me and outright lied to me that they had 'lost' my signed statement and asked me if I could come back to the station and re-sign a new one.
Obviously they had rigged the statement and were hoping that I'd sign it without reading it first.
Lowlife scumbags. Will never trust a cop.

A funny detail: one of the detectives questoning me was a kid I went to highschool with and hanged out with occasionally. I didn't know he had become a cop. To say the least, he was surprised to see me, too.

I'm not pissed that I was arrested or fined or locked up.
But I'm pissed that I'm labeled a junkie in the cop-system and have a criminal record which might stop some potential employers from employing me in the future, in case they do extensive background checks.
That is totally wrongful. All I did was get high on a substance the government doesn't get a direct cut from manufacturing and distributing.
I'm not the idiot who wrote the law.

Also, I don't appreciate the high depressants like alcohol or opiates produce. When I go out partying I actually want to feel good and have fun.
But there are no legal stimulants I can buy



The buddy of mine who at the time used to push, is a very well-natured fella with high moral values and ****.
He'd never ever sell anything to minors and had this "drugs in one hand, cash in another"-policy because he didn't want to put himself in a position where he'd need to potentially violently go after people who owed money to him.
Jesus christ. I don't give a chit about the drug legislation nor do I really care. If you are seriously asking for my opinion, I personally find it stupid that you can drink alcohol legally and can not smoke marijuana legally. As for the other drugs, they can cause serious harm to people and since drug dealers do not care they will alter drugs and the amounts will vary which can lead to overdoses.

They are doing their job as a Police Officer. As far as acting civilized, that is what you claim- I do not know you and there are always two side of the story. Not saying you are lying but saying I do not take your word for it because that is what everyone generally claims. If they did use excessive force, you can take action on that especially if the they did not include it in their report but obviously depends on a lot of factors. You seem pretty sensitive to this whole situation so i'll leave it at that.
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04-16-2014 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
Pummi,

I got a message from the HAES collective that you were body shamed, and that's not ok. No one should be made to feel that their tiny but somehow flabby and weak body is anything less than beautiful and perfect, especially since you hid most of your track marks in between your toes.

This is a safe place -- well, not this log specifically, because EV is a cop and as such solely concerned with enforcing unjust laws and taking away your rights for hahas -- I was talking more about the loving maternal bosomy embrace of this forum. In any case, hopefully you can forgive saw and chinz; they're a product of #BIGPatriarchy, and at least one of them is probably a little overweight too (AND THAT'S OK) and is lashing out at others because of the disgust and revulsion for his own body that he's been programmed to feel. Come into the light jiggly bros!
This is a safe place but I don't see why there is any need to talk about drugs. The only thing that is interesting to me is particulars to situations where anyone thinks a Police Officer used excessive force. Other than that, don't really care. If you have a problem with the law, vote for a better representative based on that.

Enjoyed the lol's.
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04-16-2014 , 12:55 PM
Solid postage Monte-bro. I giggled.

EV,

Alcohol is worse or just as bad(good) and harmful(harmless) drug choice as many of the other drugs you're referring to.
Basically any drug can be used recreationally without any / significant issues. And 90% of those issues are not due to drugs being dangerous but due to a bunch of jackasses choosing some of them to be illegal. Paradoxical, yes, but that's just the way it is.
Current legislation is against human rights but also one that minimizes the positives and maximizes the negatives of all drug use, manufacturing and distribution.

Excessive force is one thing and in my situation it didn't get out of hand or anything, just a little bit of extra testosterone and adrenaline in the air. I guess arresting someone is something that they get really excited about and hope to get to do every day.
I don't really mind that.

I understand why they do it in general and obviously they had no way of knowing that we were unarmed or innocuous or whatever.
But the worst thing was the lying with straight face and fabricating my statement.
One would expect a bit higher standards from someone selected to enforce laws.

I'm sure you'll be one of the good cops, though, no doubt.

I'd make one lousy cop. I mean I'm not sure I could bring myself to sacrifice my integrity ie enforce silly discriminating laws for a paycheck.
Hope you don't end up on the narc-team.

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04-16-2014 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ExpectedV
As for the other drugs, they can cause serious harm to people and since drug dealers do not care they will alter drugs and the amounts will vary which can lead to overdoses.
I don't know if you meant that to serve as such but what you typed is one of the exact reasons why all drugs should be legal.
Controlled to a degree of course, but perfectly legal to possess and use by those of legal age.
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04-16-2014 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
Solid postage Monte-bro. I giggled.


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Originally Posted by Pummi81
I understand why they do it in general and obviously they had no way of knowing that we were unarmed or innocuous or whatever.
But the worst thing was the lying with straight face and fabricating my statement.
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
One would expect a bit higher standards from someone selected to enforce laws.
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
I'm sure you'll be one of the good cops, though, no doubt.
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
I'd make one lousy cop. I mean I'm not sure I could bring myself to sacrifice my integrity ie enforce silly discriminating laws for a paycheck.
Hope you don't end up on the narc-team.
Apparently drug use makes you Jewish/causes extreme passive aggression? Seems reason enough to ban them, if you ask me.

In all seriousness, civil disobedience is fine as long as you understand that you are actually breaking a law, and that, as such, there may be consequences.

As an aside, it's interesting to me that some of the most liberal people who love the comforting embrace of socialistic big government and extoll the virtues of how it can do no wrong also intensely hate the police.
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