What's your issue with the program?

Because it's the latest in a long line of half assed ****ery that has produced negative size and strength gains since you've joined the board?

Sept 2013, with particular emphasis on the second paragraph.

July 2018: Front squats 135 FOR REPS

I forgot about phat. Real good program maybe I should switch to that. At my biggest that's the program I used.

If that's what you got out of what I just posted, you're well on your way to N1 level reading comprehension and willful obtuseness.

And I don't want to focus on numbers or percentages I rather do weight I am comfortable with. For example- my bench if u look at my workouts I was at 185x5 like 4 weeks ago now I am doing 225x3. I rather do the same weight at low reps then once I hit 7-8 reps find my 3rm again and repeat the process.

Got emmmmm!

1. Program not designed for ig fuccbois, designed for older lifters with pre-existing injuries. In john's own words, he basically designed everything because he got the best bang for his buck on heavy compounds but found himself unable to do a typical powerbuilding type program anymore. It's not at all popular with the under ~30 crowd.

2. Created by an IFBB pro with dog**** genetics who's coached several Olympia competitors as well as successful natty bbers.

3. The rehtoric among bbing folks is "if you respond well to heavy progressive overload but you're too beat up from olds/injuries, go to mountain dog training".


He says 2-3 mins rest for explosive work, up to 5 for squatting and pulling. I am definitely hopping on one of the JM programs after my most recent bout of knee and bicep tendon pain. The program is not necessarily the issue, maybe more execution. EV's historically been terrified of resting adequately and doing true RPE8+ work on compound lifts. If I sent you the .pdf and you contrasted with EV's log you'd see what I mean.

Well, yeah, that's the point, though, isn't it? 90 seconds rest and RPE<6 for all lower body movements isn't the recipe for gainz, yet his mental illness for bro-style rep/set schemes bleeds into everything he does.

I'm getting stronger while staying injury free and gaining muscle mass. On point with my goals so far. All that matters.

EV,

Can you cite specific examples and/or benchmarks as to the strength and/or muscle mass gainz you've achieved in the last 6 months? 12 months? 24 months?

Bench went from 185x5 to 225x3 and DB incline 70x8 to 90x5. This was from 5/11/18 to now.

And your lower body lifts? The journey to 180/10%?

He said he was benching 225x8 right before getting on the forum. Now 225x3?!!! I weighed 156 the other day, I haven't flat benched in two years. Can I get 225x3? Lol.

Loltacular. This thread has to be a troll. They 86 my girl mlylt and keep this guy around? What the fack?

Don't take my posts seriously EV. I am just mad that mlylt got booted and will also be leaving the forum. You have gymed as much as anyone here and look decent. RESPECT (just a little though).

If loco leaves I'm gone too. No reason for me to be around. It's the only entertainment around here despite n1 trolling everyone and Monte losing his cool consistently.

Lower body strength has been slacking as expected. I am recovering from lower back injury. There is no reason to be aggro with squats/ lower body lifts.

The forum is in shambles, not a single fatty to root for. Alobar is dead now also. RIP. Who would have thought greens would have ruined the forum instead of thremp?

#freethremp

#loco4mod

7/28/18
169.4 lbs

Legs
Front squats- 3x8 120-180s rest
135x5
155x5
165x5
165x4

Bulgarian lunges- 2x10 + 1xchallenge set (1x10) then isohold 10secs + 3 drop sets inc isoholds 10 secs - 60s rest
30x10 x2
35x10
40x8
35x10- 30x8 - 30x6

Lying leg curls- (4 warm up sets) + 3x8 - 60s rest
30x8 wu
40x8 wu
50x6 wu
65x6 wu
80x10
95x8 x2

BB SLDL- 2x10
Not enough time. Geocery store before work n need to cook.

What program are you doing?

Meadows carnage program I believe it's called

7/30/18
171 lbs

Back- heavy
Standin DB rows 3x8 60s rest
30x8
40x8 x2
45x8

T Bar- 3x12 90s rest
115x12
135x5
145x5 (lots of pressure on low back)
145x5 need to work on hams, they are giving out shaking real bad. Arms are completely fine. Might need to up the weight on RDL and go triple digits.

DB pullovers- 3x12 S/S meadows row 3x8
65x10/ 115x8
65x10/ *125x8
70x8/ 125x8

Away facing and normal pulldowns- 3x8 (stretch Lats *****ween)
140x8
160x6 x2

Banded hyper extensions- 3x20
x15 x2

Abs

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How much rest is there supposed to be between heavy back sets?

Yeah that's ridiculous. I have a video in my Instagram wielding 100s and this guy is wielding 40s. WTF.

Actually one of my old buddies who doesn't even lift called me out on my form on this lift. I never responded, you guys can judge. I been very bad about updating my Instagram, I really don't like the whole thing. But I got keep doing it as long as I have targets I want to hit.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi7gByUg...=19ttmvzcgnkkt


But anyways going back to EV, he has added zero muscle the last few months. It's all gains from going fat approaching 180. Kid is delusional.