Just for my understanding...

Wikipedia and a post in 2p2 is quotable as factual? Ive been doing it all wrong then.

I saw a Wikipedia page that explains Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics... should have believed it.

Point is this you pull out some decent, but unreliable resources. I could sit here and post links too... but I would rather spend that time to prepare another veggie juice and go running.

Sorry if that comes off cheeky, but I will listen to scientific rational from credible sources that will help show results. What I am currently doing is showing results for the goals I set forth... although slightly behind schedule, it is melting away like butter in a sustainable way.

Thanks Nick. I will work on distance runs at a slow rate. But towards the end of this period I would like to get to my former shape. Should be able to do this when lighter.

Sorry Pummi, you caught me on a grumpy day. Let me reread this again later. I do appreciate your response, just hit me the wrong way.

1800 calories a day would make anyone cranky, much less when you combine it with running. No idea why you're doing this to yourself, but vaya con dios and all that.

Lol... mostly cranky because I was up past bed time due to deepish run at 50r tourny (this still a poker forum, right) and early work time. Then when I read those quotes I was like woah... but there might be some merit in there, but I have to dissect truth from fiction.

Hey at least Im beyond punching someone in the face for some pizza. Lol

That diet looks pretty subpar actually. A ton of juice and protein shakes. Usually liquid calories won't fill you up enough and you'll be left hungry. This can lead to overeating.

It also looks like your dietary fat is lacking. With all the fruit and veggies you're consuming, a lot of it will be going to waste (literally, in the toilet) without enough fat to absorb the nutrients. You definitely should be taking your multivitamin with your nuts or meat or whatever fat you're eating for the day.

The frequency of your meals can also lead to trouble especially if you're not tracking calories. Your potential daily calories consumed is much higher with 5 meals than if you had 1 or 2 big meals per day.


If it's working I wouldn't change anything, though. However, you definitely need to track your calories. That is the single most important factor with regard to weight loss/gain. Without that knowledge you're just shooting in the dark. With good discipline and a very monotonous diet you can overcome that since you'll basically eat the same amount every day, but most people consume a wide variety of foods and their caloric intake can vary drastically from day to day if they don't understand what they're putting in their body.

Lack of dietary fat seems like it could be a valid point.

Ordering tub of lard now... jk

Will look into this later at home. Thx

Though depending on the nuts you're eating, and if you're really eating a cup of them, you could be getting a good amount of fat.

If he really does that would make his mid-morning snack 50% of his daily calorie intake.

Primarily almonds and walnuts

Bodyrecomposition.com and Examine.com that I quoted from are easily in the top 5% of the most reliable interweb sources of unbiased and evidence-based information regarding nutrition, diet and supplements.

Even that particular Wikipedia article I quoted has decent references.

CLA is like 99.9% of supplements - the scientific data doesn’t jive with the sales pitch.

No worries, man.
I'd be grumpy, too if I were consuming 1.8k cals.

Anyway, let's get back to this...

CLA is not intended for that kind of use ie to fill holes in a lacking diet.
It's used for a supposed extra fat-burning effect and the science says it does not do good work at that.

However, increased intake of Omega 3 fatty acids shows benefits on a myriad of health parameters. And this is all backed up by a gazillion of scientific studies.

Ok, as I skyped with Joey yesterday just because I didnt list all my supplements doest mean Im not taking others... I just like seeing some of you guys riled up.

I take fish oil and have sometime due to chloresterol levels. I also take chromium. I also take amino acid powder. I consume the lowest carb/calorie/high protien powder I can find. And some other pill that escapes me for my joints.

I appreciate your support. But I posted this here as a journal and some chatter/motivation. Not really anything earth shattering or people that quote material that isnt reliable.

If you think Im doing it wrong... then I may be willing to make a prop bet. And since you think Im doing it wrong and losing weight for someone over 40 is an uphill battle, I suppose I should get odds. Set that line for me and that may be just the additional motivation I need.

The person that could really use the assistance is BigDogPocket5s... watch his twitch as the anti - lifestyle. He has already had 1 major heart attack and on course for more.

Um, I don't think anyone's riled up, it's mostly just friendly people offering you advice, while giving said advice is being made harder by you posting incomplete information and not being too receptive.

Anyway, why would I (or anyone) want to bet against something anyone with a modicum of dedication can do?

This log is amazing.

Lol... thread delivers.





Delivers exactly what I posted in OP.

So what is your side of the bet? U have to give her an equivalent amount to spend shopping or something? If there is no downside to you not making it, it's not much of a wager.

Good luck though, I am also trying to lose weight, so know it's not easy.

worst diet i have seen in a long while

Why?

tons of (fruit-)sugar, tons of liquids, no volume, little protein and extremely little fat, basically the exact opposite of what he should do.

he is a prime example of the yo-yo dieter as with his completely unsustainable and uncomfortable diet OP doesn't have the slightest idea how to eat reasonably and with his ignorant attitude lives in a black/white world when it comes to fat loss(it's either eat like crap and be fat or don't get any treats whatsoever and just drink lolfruit-juice all day to lose weight) which inevitable will lead to him getting back to old habits and gaining everything back.

getting down to a normal weight is so easy with a reasonable, balanced diet and If done properly the person should barely even notice that he is on a diet to begin with. most fat people seem unwilling to grasp that for some reason.

I don't know, looks like you didn't really read what he posted.

He gets a lot of protein, little sugar from fruit (only fruit in the morning) and it's hard for me to argue it isn't filling if he says it is. A lack of fat seems like a valid criticism, a bit depending on amount of nuts and the content of his protein shake, but that's a pretty easy leak to plug.

guy literally drinks his entire kcal intake and has a fairly big sugar intake to go with it with his stupid juices(veggies are usually 1/2 sugar, 5g/100g for a carrot for example)

Yeah, well carrots are the most sugary vegetable there is, pretty much. Would you still have a problem with the diet if instead of using his juicer, he ate all veggies as salads?

I'm surprised at your strong reaction considering it's a diet of lean meats, veggies, nuts, berries, fruit and protein shakes. Its contents is better than what 95% of people eat, I'm pretty sure, and with some additional fat it seems very good to me.

bell pepper 5g sugar/100(50% of its calories)
zucchini 2.5 sugar/100(around 60% of its calories
eggplant 3.5 sugar/100(also around 60% of its calories)

one of the major benefits of vegetables during a diet is providing lots of volume for relatively low calories. all of that is undone with the juicing.

his eating regime is liquids, liquids, more liquids and sometimes a protein without fat.
I would even call that a diet.

a simple guideline for a beginner to success:
-significant cut down on sugar
-replace most sugar/other simple carbs with complex carbs(whole-grains) and vegetables
-no liquid calories
-always at least 10g of fat(preferably unsaturated)/20g protein with every meal
-voluminous food(limiting stuff like nuts in the progress)
-allow yourself a small treat once in a while

OP is basically doing the opposite lol