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01-26-2010 , 01:36 PM
Doesn't Bronkaid have an expectorant in it? The stuff I have at my desk is Bronkaid and it contains Guaifenesin.
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01-26-2010 , 01:44 PM
I didn't know what that was, but after a quick google search of what it is, it doesn't surprise me. Bronkaid's main purpose isn't the ephedrine, it's a cheap medication with ephedrine in it. It's like 6x as cheap as buying ephedrine, from what I can tell.

But it would actually be a pretty big plus, because I have tons of mucus in my throat all the time. I've been to the doctors for it multiple times, but they all say, "Uh, just drink more water." I drink like 3 liters of water/day.

This might end up killing two birds with one stone for me.
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01-26-2010 , 01:55 PM
Yeah, it has gauifensin in it but at 400 mg (or are you taking more?) it should be pretty mild. I take is all the time when I'm sick or have allergies and probably sometimes when I don't need it. Its effective, definitely, but I don't find it annoying like some here do.

JF, it will definitely help with the mucous.
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01-26-2010 , 01:59 PM
I'm seriously so happy about this right now. Yayyyyyy

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01-26-2010 , 02:03 PM
I'm planning to do the same basic cut as you when I finish SS, which should be pretty soon (squatting 260x5 today and all my lifts but bench are proportionate).

I'm probably going for a more moderate deficit than you, at least after my first month or so.

FWIW I lost 40 pounds in 14 weeks, but way too much of that was muscle.
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01-28-2010 , 11:42 PM
Alright got a good work out today, tested a couple 1RMs including squat which I have never tested before. I really focused a lot of stretching and warming up today, and ran around the block to get my blood flowing. I took a 200mg caffeine pill also, it I really liked it. Anyway, here is what I did

Started off testing my 1RM. These were all technically PRs since I've never done this before:

Squat:
275x1
295x1
305x1
315x1 <<<< AWESOME!

Sweet. I only have 4 45s, so it's not technically 3 plates, but same amount of weight. Looked a little sloppy, but it looked pretty deep, and I happy because I didn't think I could do anything over 300.

After that I did my work set:

Squat Work Set:
240x3x5

Notes: Still workin' on my form. My knees kind of do some slight caving when I am getting the bounce out of the hole. Hard to tell, but my back looks a little tighter, don't really know. This did feel pretty light after squatting 315, though. Cool.

Press Work Set:

115x2x5
115x1x3
115x1x4

Notes: After my second press work set, I really had to take a crap. It took like 20 minutes so I lost a lot of momentum. Which is why I came back and only did 3. I ran around doing some chins and KB swings, but I could only do 4 after that. Oh well, I suck at this anyways, it's to be expected.

Tested some PC 1RMs I'm sure this is fairly close to my 1RM

PC
185x1

Meh, these are pretty tough, and it's such a fast lift I have a tough time judging my own form. I seem to be doing an asymmetric uncoordinated split clean or something weird. After that, I did my work sets:

170x3x3

Notes: Same as before it's hard for me to tell since it's a quick lift. I think I was able to get my back straight and my arms vertical which is good. Still doing the weird split clean thing on these. It's hard to tell if I'm doing the 2nd pull at the right time or not.

Clean and Jerk:

145x3

This actually felt easier than 140 did. I'm not sure but I think my last one is the best.


Well, I got my caffeine pills in the mail, but I'm still waiting for the Bronkaid (ephedrine+expectorant) and hopefully they will be here by the 1st when I plan on getting rid of all this extra body fat. Getting pretty tired of it. My goal it to basically get rid of all this body fat in 6 months while retaining as much strength as possible. We'll see how it goes.
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01-28-2010 , 11:53 PM
nice work, sir! i got 200 grams of caffeine powder which works out to 1k servings for 10 dollars. in hawaii, cant get bronkaid or any ephedrine OTC anymore but caffeine has been ok so far.

those work sets after maxing must have been some hard work
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01-28-2010 , 11:59 PM
I think I could have done 255 for my squat work sets, I was really feeling good today, testing my 1RM doesn't really take much out of me.

I ordered my Bronkaid on amazon, so it seems like you would have no trouble getting any from there. And yeah, caffein is apparently very cheap.
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01-29-2010 , 03:48 AM
Damn 315 lb 1rm with a 240 lb workset? Jesus dude.
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01-29-2010 , 03:55 AM
yeah pretty impressive.

I might do a 1RM on saturday because I'm going light volume (getting back to M/W/F so just 1 day rest). but probably not.

you're a lot better than me on the PC.

this aggression will not stand.
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01-29-2010 , 07:47 AM
I see Rip is pwning you a teeny bit on his forum, heh.
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01-29-2010 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by theblackkeys
Damn 315 lb 1rm with a 240 lb workset? Jesus dude.
I don't really know it seems weird to me, too. I am on a reset right now though, because when I did 250 for my work set everyone agreed that it looked too heavy and it's time for a reset.
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you're a lot better than me on the PC.
If better = more weight I guess so. My form is pretty weird with my feet spazzing out when I'm catching the bar.

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Originally Posted by Soulman
I see Rip is pwning you a teeny bit on his forum, heh.
I'm pwning myself, really. My reading comprehension really sucks lately. Brain turing into muscle, ldo
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01-29-2010 , 04:13 PM
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02-02-2010 , 03:50 PM
Alright I just finished my workout. I filmed it, but I won't upload it until later I have stuff to do. I have a rib that chronically pops out in my back, and today it is killing me. I felt it at work, and I could tell it was really bad when I was warming up. It didn't really effect anything except for DLs, which hurt really bad. I'll have tot go get it put back in later today. Anyway summary:

Squat:

265x3x5

(25 pounds higher than my last work set, sweet)

Bench:

170x3x5

(No spotter, ez game)

Deadlift:

345x1

BACK HURTS.

Anyway, I'll upload vids later today or tomorrow.
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02-02-2010 , 04:19 PM
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I have a rib that chronically pops out in my back, and today it is killing me.

I'll have tot go get it put back in later today.
Can't you just keep it in a box somewhere? I mean, what is putting it back in good for anyway?
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02-02-2010 , 07:50 PM
I wish. I actually think it's stress related. It pops out sometimes after a long management shift (like last night).

Anyway, here are the vids(warning: techno music)

Squat 265x3x5

Notes: 25 pound jump ez game. My 1st set is a little sloppy and on the 3rd rep I almost lost it forward as I didn't keep the weight on my heels. I think the 2nd set is the best and the 3rd set is almost as good. My knees are still caving a little on the bounce and I think I didn't quite get my feet to 30 degrees. Overall I am happy with depth and bar speed though. I was having trouble slowing down and speeding up during reps, but now it looks more consistent.

Bench 170x3x5

Notes: I suck at bench.

DL:

295 Double Over hand

(Easy though I don't get my back in full extension)

345

Bleh.


Well I'm at 1900 calories for the day. Though I suppose I could eat a little more today seeing as how I lifted pretty heavy and will probably be up +24 plus hours. Still waiting on my bronkaid. I am taking something similar with an expectorant and pseudoephedrine. It's def a stimulant, but I still have a large appetite, so hopefully the regular ephedrine will help that.
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02-02-2010 , 08:22 PM
heels are actually coming up throughout the sets, not just when you actually lose it forward. bench grip is a bit wide. forearms aren't vertical at the bottom. and deadlift negative needs work (you already mentioned back extension). don't bend your knees so early.
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02-02-2010 , 09:08 PM
I like your effort my friend, but a few things i wish to point out.

firstly, you havnt got the form down just yet in order to keep increasing the weight as to what your lifting. legs/chest the whole lot.

You need to keep it light, until you gain the form and your muscles build and strengthen the proper way. Otherwise, it will be very difficult for you to go back to proper training and lifting once you become accustomed to it.


When doing legs, very importantly, you must use your heels to lift, not toes. This is why you are leaning forward and trying to get help from your back.

Chest: Elbows are not directly out, they are by your side, so you are getting help from the shoulders to lift.


Training at home on your own can be a problem in terms of not having anybody ther to tell you what is wrong, and more importantly to tell you what is right. Add to the fact that many people die from training on ther own, not knowing what to do and going to heavy. Although you seem like you have some idea on what you are doing, you must take into consideration of obtaining a partner of a trainer.

Your effort for all this is fantastic, but you need the right knowledge and attitude to go with it.

Dont stop, good luck.
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02-02-2010 , 09:28 PM
I have frequently almost died since I started working at home.

But I do it.

Tomorrow is my tricep day. Can you give me some advice on what to do? (besides the regular stuff)

And safe recommendations only, please
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02-02-2010 , 09:47 PM
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Chest: Elbows are not directly out, they are by your side, so you are getting help from the shoulders to lift.

This is my favorite part.
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02-03-2010 , 01:53 AM
it's great because there's a double lol involved.
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02-03-2010 , 07:13 AM
you must do your own research thoroughly if you wish to obtain the right knowledge.

Although us poker players may be able to give you advice, nothing is better than the ppl who know it best.

research this site as much as you would a poker forum.

gl


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html
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02-03-2010 , 07:25 AM
lol at the suggestion
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02-03-2010 , 10:39 AM
more advice from suicdeking plz
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02-07-2010 , 03:09 AM
My back finally felt good enough today, though it did feel a little suspect when I woke up. These squats absolutely killed me today. Completely drained me, and I didn't feel as good as I have been, so it was pretty meh. I'm only going to start filming my 1st work set, all the sets is getting to be a bit too much.

Anyway here is what I did today:

Squat:
270x3x5

Notes: I was only going to film the 1st set, but it felt like it sucked so I filmed another one. I'm still putting too much weight on my toes, but I did make a conscious effort to do it less this time. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to keep increasing these 10 pounds/week at a pretty big deficit, but I might surprise myself.

Press:
117.5x3x5/4/3

Notes: Fuuuuuu. I should have done this before squats but I always forget. I don't even think I made full lockout on the last rep filmed, it's like 1/2 lockout. Just lots of fail on my Press.

Dead hang chins: 2

Sweet. That 100% improvement over 1.

I'm considering a new strategy for lifting that would be the same amount of lower volume every week. It would basically just doing 1 lift every day.

Format:
M: Squat
Tu: Bench
W: DL
Th: Squat
F: Press
Sat: PC
Sun: Rest

I feel like I could be fresh for each lift every day, and the volume would be low enough so it would be doable. I dunno, maybe it's super important to have full days of rest eating at a big deficit.

And I am successfully eating less than 1/2 of what I was eating for the last 6 months. So far so good, tomorrow will probably be carb refeed day because it's obv the superbowl and party time.
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