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Originally Posted by COCKBOAT
Best troll in this forum in a long time.
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Went to Fogo de Chao last night. Are piles of incredibly delicious, nearly raw animal flesh. Still alive.
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Originally Posted by Montecore
Rapini,I hope you didn't fall for their salad bar con job; filling up on lettuce in lieu of additional meat is the fish move for sure.
I get it guys. I'm not one of the cool kids. I don't belong in your
'do you even lift bro' meathead culture you have around here.
Moving on....
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
But again, evolutionary just so stories may be fun to talk/debate about but they don't really get at the heart of the matter (pun intended).
Let's talk more about the heart of the matter: Meat. Specifically let's talk about arguably the most revealing statement in the history of evidenced based nutrition (
The USDA admitting that eggs are not healthy comes in a solid second):
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"The Only Safe Upper Level of Dietary Trans Fats is Zero" (Official document), by the Food and Nutrition Board, Institute of Medicine of the National Academies (2005). Dietary Reference Intakes for Energy, Carbohydrate, Fiber, Fat, Fatty Acids, Cholesterol, Protein, and Amino Acids (Macronutrients). National Academies Press. See bottom of p. 423.
This Institute of Medicine (National Academy of Sciences) research reported that the only “safe” level of trans fats in the human diet is “zero.” The report admits that “Because trans fatty acids are unavoidable in ordinary, nonvegan diets, consuming 0 percent of energy would require significant changes in patterns of dietary intake.” One-fifth of trans fats in the US diet is from animal parts and products, so a logical conclusion would be to recommend that people not eat animals.
When questioned, one scientist who co-authored the study (Eric Rimm, Associate Professor of Epidemiology and Nutrition, Harvard University) said, “We can’t tell people to stop eating all meat and all dairy products. Well, we could tell people to become vegetarians …If we were truly basing this on science we would, but it would be extreme.”
Source.
So IF we decided to let loose and go all crazy and base our food choices on
the scientific research of the National Academy of Sciences, I.E. "the most prestigious scientific body in the United States"!!, we end up coming to a very simple and clear conclusion: Eliminate all animal products from our diet.
Now that may sound "extreme" to some, but hey what can I say, when one follows the evidence they shouldn't expect to always reach comfortable truths. Besides that, I'm not so sure what's so "extreme" about eating whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds. So many delicious, health promoting dishes can be created from those options. Today I had a tofu & chickpea scramble loaded with tomatoes, mushrooms, garlic, onions, bell peppers, cilantro, herbs and spices along with cinnamon raisin whole grain toast with walnut butter and sliced strawberries on top. It was ****ing amazing! But yeah maybe the "Associate Professor of Epidemiology and Nutrition [at] Harvard University" might find that too "extreme". "Extreme" is a pretty subjective word tho. Believe it or not, some people actually find
open heart surgeries, dropping dead of a heart attack, and
colon cancer pretty extreme. Whatever floats one's boat I suppose.
Ok let's do a very quick review:
1) According to the World Health Organization, processed meat is
a group 1 carcinogen like tobacco smoking and asbestos. Also, according to the WHO, red meat, defined as "all mammalian muscle meat, including, beef, veal, pork, lamb, mutton, horse, and goat" is
"probably carcinogenic to humans".
2) According to Harvard, if you like life you should
switch out your animal protein consumption for plant protein.
3) According to the National Academy of Sciences, I.E. the most prestigious scientific body in the United States, "if we were truly basing [our eating decisions] on science", we should stop eating all animal products.
So that's the World Health Organization, Harvard, and the National Academy of Sciences all pointing in the same direction. Is this evidence not compelling enough for you guys to admit meat is not health promoting? Did I cherry pick too much? Are these 3 institutions too hippy and radical for you? R U MAD you just bought that gallon of whey protein powder from GNC before reading this poast?