That is his child.

So you genuinely believe you eat more fruits and vegetables because the farm animals you eat are vegetarian?

Ah, the ole "Would you eat your dog?" logic trap. It's as old as it is pointless. Can't you come up with anything better?

But, to play along - If forced to, I would roughly put animals into one of three categories: wild animals, livestock, pets. Wild animals is self-explanatory. Livestock includes animals that have been bred over thousands of years to be food. Pets are animals that have been bred over thousands of years to be companions.

I would eat select wild animals (endangered species are off the list, as well as animals that give me an "ich" factor).

I would eat most livestock (personal preference being the deciding factor).

I would not eat my companion.

Yes, I realize that in different parts of the world animals may not be in the category I put them in. That's one place where ethics is subjective.
I laughed.

Firstly eating dog is a thing have you heard of China?

Secondly pigs have sentience of a 2yo human

Thirdly pigs are smarter than some dogs

My logic is sound you can’t really love animals and then turn around and eat them. Either admit you don’t or time to change your world view.

Also breading animals you are supporting rape.

So if you eat animals you support both murder and rape

If you're going to be disingenuous, we're done here.

You’ve been disingenuous since your first post here.. just admit you’re not here to talk you’re here to “elicit responses” like muny.

Oh and just in case anyone thinks I’m being disingenuous I literally researched this line of reasoning on how to use the Socratic method to get people to see the paradox they are in using questions. Didaces failed the test.

There’s a guy that makes videos about this exact topic and uses this exact same line of reasoning to get people to see this very ethical dilemma. So I can’t even pass it off as my work.

the line of reasoning doesn't make sense

not wanting to eat an animal that you have a specific sentimental connection to doesn't mean you therefore don't want to eat any animals?

there is no inconsistency there

I love filet mignon.

This is the type of vegan argument that gets many non-vegans to ignore the other points.

Nonsense. That's like saying I couldn't kill a pest on my lawn if I wouldn't kill a dog that wandered into my yard.

A few of you said I eat unethically. I'm replying to that and the responses.

Most pests that wander onto my lawn are humans. Are you saying it's okay to kill humans just because they're trying to sell us solar panels we don't want, yet a dog taking a **** on my lawn, which we don't want either, is fine?

Rich after watching some videos of yours on YouTube w the PPA.. I can honestly say your body type would benefit the most from not eating red meat. Your head and no neck look like a heart attack waiting to happen.

I think you should consider eating less cholesterol and saturated fat.

I was referring to non-human pests, unless they're breaking into my house of course.

Thanks for your concern. From a couple of weeks ago:



Feel free to post your shots so we can compare. FWIW I'm 52.

I'll start. Dr. Greger at 46:

But imagine how ripped you would be had you been vegan…

It’s so weird all you narcs have topless selfies of yourself.

Another obvious point is that comparing two bodies and saying A is not vegan but works out more but B is vegan but only goes on hikes just agrees w my posts above where I claimed how active you are trumps what you eat.

The real test muny is for you to go vegan and have the same exact regiment. If you have gains then I win. If you don’t then you win.

I don’t think you understand the concept of variables.. this is also why most science on this topic is very debatable bc there’s too many variables to compare apples to oranges.

I dare you to try being vegan and see if your results improve.

If you go vegan for a year and don’t see improved results then I will happily say your diet is optimal. Still won’t make it ethical but you can win the meat head contest then and only then.

Whoa, wrapsody got owned there. Called Rich a fatty and got slapped by a dose of reality.

The Golden Rich strikes again.

I never called him a fatty I said he had a short neck / no neck situation going on and it could be cause for concern if he eats a lot of red meat.

I’ll give him the benefit of having a work out regiment that makes him look very healthy for 52.

Vegans still do live on avg 7 years longer so maybe he could benefit along with everyone else from going vegan.

* meant to include short arteries and veins in your neck can clog easier and cause stroke

I doubt he could get even an extra year. I've run extensive calculations on scientific studies and have concluded i would get an extra 6 months from going vegan.

You see, the vegans exercise more, drink less, smoke less than their meat eating counterparts. So once you take those factors out, you left with scraps for the benefits of going totally vegan.

But what if there are “eternal benefits”

Some people believe you get reincarnated into lower life forms

Some believe you go to hell or purgatory for sinning

Idk I’m pretty risk averse when it comes to ethics..

I’ll gamble my house away before I’d gamble my soul

For you mr wrapsody, i would reccommend supplementing the EAAs (they are essential for a reason) not found in decent quantities in plants, lifting weights for better aesthetics and health and keep up the hiking. Maybe add in a few hill sprints. Also make sure your bodyfat is in the 15% range (visible abs like the Golden Rich). No drugs.

Thats all you can do. See you into your 90s. I plan on being the last man standing around here, but of course there is the variance factor of cancer. I did mostly eliminate process meats so trying to solve cancer as we speak. Gonna be tougher than obesity, thats fosho.

Thinking that eating vegan can lengthen your neck arteries and veins is truly bizarre.

Ya one of the claims of WFPB is that it’s healing and anti cancerous.

I mean the first thing most doctors tell you is to cut out the dairy and the processed meats and red meats because they cause inflammation and maybe cancer causing.

It’s my ace in the hole, my trump suit, my silver bullet