Hmmmm... throwing a normal size person, esp a 200lbs one, would be quite difficult. Realistically, 5'-10' probably.
Technique is vital to throw far. This was discussed a little bit earlier in the log:
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Originally Posted by 00Snitch
So given this, would you say that it is more about technique/skill than strength/power?
Do you think (I think you do given your comments so far in this thread) there is a level (or continum) where the strength becomes secondary to the skill? i.e. Usually is a more skillfull dude going to be able to outperform a stronger dude?
Does this change from amature ranks to pros? I assume the rank beginners are going to find stronger == beter, but small increases in skill at the start will be far more benificial than even large increases in strength.
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Also, great thread. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by milesdyson
OOSnitch,
i will take a stab at this even though gorilla man weighs 45lb more than i do. of course there is a point of diminishing returns, in theory. in practice, pretty much no one gets there and should always try to get stronger. john godina, google him, made this comment when the topic came up in an interview i heard: "there aren't many christian cantwells in the world." cantwell is a huge shot putter who took silver in beijing who apparently has a sick work ethic and insane strength.
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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale
+1 to what miles said.
There probably is a point where strength becomes secondary to skill, but I don't think most people ever get there. Everyone still has throws where something just isn't right, be it timing or speed or whatever, and that is the skill essentially breaking down, which can happen for any number of reasons. One way to compensate for that is to have the strength to get yourself out of that mess. I have never done anything athletically related and said, "Damn! If only I wasn't so strong!" I suspect I never will say that, lol. I'm am much more on the strength side in my sport, being that I haven't practiced for the last four years. I look at the skill guys and wish I could do what they do, just like I imagine they wish they had the strength some of us do.
That being said, I and the other HG Pros, and well as all most pro athletes, have put in thousands upon thousands of reps developing the skill part. Studied, talked to other about it, visualized, stood in the kitchen mimicking a throw, etc, etc...
You are correct when you say:
When I practiced and learned the skill portion of HG, my throws went through the roof in less than one season, and I didn't get any/much stronger in that 7 month period.
I hope I answered what you were asking, I feel like I just rambled on a bit, lol.
As for a reasonably athletic 6'4", 275lb man with a decent strength level, he would have a jump on most newbies that come out, that's for sure. But that will only take you so far. Also, with regards to those numbers, I put absolutely no stock whatsoever in someone's geared PL numbers, because they don't mean much. Powerlifting requires a very small degree, if any at all, of athleticism.
And yes, there are instances where smaller guys outperform larger guys as a result of technique, no doubt about it.