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Old 02-03-2011, 06:04 PM   #201
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do you mean pull up a little on the bar before i start the rep?
i do that when i deadlift, but because of the bouncing (which i will get rid of) i dont really do it when i PC...

i guess i just did the bouncing because it felt like i generated more power so i could pull more weight...ill remove it and see how that changes things...
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:21 PM   #202
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ya, same as with deadlift. i would highly recommend it.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:53 PM   #203
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

General DL form question: I've found that a problem I have is picking the bar up nice, but putting it down too far from my body which leaves me too far away from the bar on the next rep. Acceptable to take 2-3 seconds between each rep to basically walk up to the bar and make sure you're in the right spot?
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:00 PM   #204
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DL form check. Looks like my back is rounded. Sorry that the camera stopped recording after the third rep. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqTU5jFr6o
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:05 PM   #205
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General DL form question: I've found that a problem I have is picking the bar up nice, but putting it down too far from my body which leaves me too far away from the bar on the next rep. Acceptable to take 2-3 seconds between each rep to basically walk up to the bar and make sure you're in the right spot?
you're bending your knees prematurely on the descent.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:43 PM   #206
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DL form check. Looks like my back is rounded. Sorry that the camera stopped recording after the third rep. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqTU5jFr6o
Its not too bad, but I'd try to correct it. Read this: http://startingstrength.com/resource...0063#post70063
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:40 AM   #207
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Thirddan-Those aren't triples. More like cluster singles. No need for that time inbetween reps.

You should focus on a more perfect startign position rather than all that bouncing etc you are doing. Its excessive and throwing you off. The bar is not close enough to you for most of the lift. There are two distinct phases going on, it should be smoother between the pull off the floor and the 'jump' when the bar brushes the legs. The start off the floor is changing your back angle too much (perhaps due to not enough quad use) and you don't get a hard enough lower back extension either imo.

Also use round plates.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:42 AM   #208
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Here's my first form check. It's a pretty poor angle and video quality.

Squat 245
http://www.youtube.com/user/radelism?feature=mhum

Anything I need to do besides not look into the mirror?
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:47 AM   #209
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you're bending your knees prematurely on the descent.
Probably. Also don't sloppily set the bar down, focus on keeping it close to your body on the descent. I used to just smash it down, merely focusing on keeping it close works fine.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:18 AM   #210
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I'm not smart enough to comment on form, but try http://www.youtube.com/editor and use the Rotate feature there to fix the video orientation.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #211
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

raydain,

they look ok from that retarded viewpoint.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:52 PM   #212
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

hi guys finally got some vids this morning so I can get some feedback if you would please take a look.

first set was at 170, was train wreck as g/f was rushing me through warmups so she could get to cardiotarding so was really tight and depth felt bad. anyway, she started recording late and missed first rep, I dropped to 165 next 2 sets. third set I only did 4 instead of 5, guess I dont count well at 530 in the morning.squats

deadlifts felt ok, looks like a couple times my hips came up too fast/ my ass looks high but I'm total noob so curious to hear what you think.

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Old 02-04-2011, 01:49 PM   #213
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

Squats:

- Look down
- Get new shoes
- Lack of hip drive caused by: slight knee cave, knees tracking forward, lack of tightness, shoes


Deadlift:
Bad angle, looks really bad. Basically you need to retool it entirely. Back is not in extension at all, neither thoracic nor lumbar. You don't keep your chest up. You lift with your back. Etc. Review the book/DVD, review vids posted here and try again.
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:56 PM   #214
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thanks Soul
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:59 PM   #215
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

The link in the first post on Rip's deadlift setup is very useful, so if you haven't seen it already, do so and follow the advice every time you lift. Just mentally review before you lift and you should see substantial improvement.

Btw, is the bar resting on the floor there? The comparable squat rack in my previous gym was a tad too high to DL in.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #216
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

That's the exact same squat rack I have at my gym, the plates are maybe 1/4 inch off the ground. So no biggie.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:51 PM   #217
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Why dont you just deadlift outside of the rack?
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:02 PM   #218
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I do now, but its easier to load the plates when there is a very small gap. And it makes less noise as there is some hard rubber that the bar lands on.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:05 PM   #219
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i'm always confused when i hear "real" trainers make fun of bros curling in the power cage "when they need to squat or deadlift." I've never DLed anywhere close to the rack.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:23 PM   #220
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Thirddan-Those aren't triples. More like cluster singles. No need for that time inbetween reps.

You should focus on a more perfect startign position rather than all that bouncing etc you are doing. Its excessive and throwing you off. The bar is not close enough to you for most of the lift. There are two distinct phases going on, it should be smoother between the pull off the floor and the 'jump' when the bar brushes the legs. The start off the floor is changing your back angle too much (perhaps due to not enough quad use) and you don't get a hard enough lower back extension either imo.

Also use round plates.
heh, i wish i could, but im not switching gyms just for that...

will post vids next week when i PC again...thanks for the tips...
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:16 PM   #221
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Sorry for the bad angle. I'll hopefully be able to fix it for next time.

Squat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1hWaIiXI4
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:23 PM   #222
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oh man. your weight is really on your toes, and it should be on your heels. find comprehensive instructions for squatting (starting strength book is good) and follow the directions.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:53 PM   #223
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wow first time Ive seen that. It's like your doing sissy squats.
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:46 AM   #224
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Re: *** H&F Form Check Thread ***

Squat 195: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyHtyXMbd0

I apologize for the angle; there was no real good place to put the camera, and I know the cage is blocking my feet. Any obvious hip/back problems?

Press 85: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTGEmUaVdwk

One thing I know: elbows should be forward more (I have flexibility issues), and the bar is not really going straight up. What else?
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Old 02-05-2011, 02:08 AM   #225
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flexibility shouldn't be an issue imo. otherwise the bar path is the only thing you need to fix. think about the bar going straight up to your nose.
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