Those squats look good to me.

this is the new form check rickroll

yeah imo it's a really dangerous spot to be in. Side spotters are fine in the squat, side+back is maybe OK, but just back you're just asking for barbell to get dropped on you.

pretty cool vid regardless of failure.

kpowers,

not exactly sure what you're in need of, but this vid may be of interest to you: http://startingstrength.com/index.ph...sition_control

Is it normal to be so...compact, I guess, in the hole though? I was trying to mimic the 2nd guy in this video when squatting that day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jxTc2ITA8. After re watching I see that I didn't quite look like that. What do I need to do to get my back as upright as the oly lifter in that vid? Or does it just boil down to body anthropometry.. . (long legs short torso in my case). And what am I supposed to be thinking on the ascent of the squat?

+1 for the socks

I dont have answers for any of those questions. Maybe someone else does. I think your squats looked pretty good.

Your squat are pretty much identical to those, except they are squating a fk ton more than you lol.

the only difference i see is they keep their elbow more directly under their hands which is mostly a shoulder flexibility thing. as you squat more often your hams, glutes, and lower back will get more flexible and work on scapular wall slides for shoulder mobility.

Scapular wall slides are great for activating the lower traps. I do them before every workout.

PacManknows,

I agree with the others that your squats look pretty good.

It's funny because when watching it on video they looked a bit better than I pictured they would when actually doing them, but I also thought my back was more upright when doing them then it actually was. But while they look alright I'm still not feeling like I'm doing the movement optimally.

When I watched Miles' high bar squat videos and even other lifters on youtube like Pat Mendes for example it's like their ass kind of just shoots in to place, where as in my form video it looks like my my ass is slowly getting lowered in to place with my body...if that makes any sense. I want it to just kind of fling in to the hole like these guys do, and get that bounce but I'm not quite sure how.

And in their videos + the chinese oly lifters one that I posted on the way up it looks like their knee's pull back very slightly out of the bounce right when they get to parallel (going up). And this is reinforcing to me that I'm not driving out of the whole properly. On the way up instead of chest up what else am I supposed to be being mindful of? I know with Low Bar the emphasis was on hip drive but with high bar I'm kind of just going up I don't know exactly how I'm supposed to be generating my power with my legs out of the whole.

So Miles if you're reading this and anyone else that is well versed in HB squatting that wants to chime in, what am I supposed to be cueing myself in the hole on the way up besides "chest up"? Miles I'm watching your high bar vids right now and you explode up super fast out of the hole.... this is what I want to be able to do.

And thanks for the scapular wall slides suggestion, I have terrible shoulder flexibility and my right elbow is usually higher then my left when squatting. And I have trouble locking out good when pressing. I also have a foam roller, is there anything I could do on it to give myself better shoulder flexibility in addition to the scapular wall slides?

The wall slides wont help much with flexibility, but activating & strengthening the lower traps is very healthy for the shoulders.

Regarding the rest of that, its kind of a broad question, but there are tons of links posted in this forum. If you read my log from the beginning, you'll see all kinds of links and shoulder info. Look through that and pm me if you have more specific questions. One youtube vid you'll want to look for is the Cressey/Gentilecore foam rolling routine.

Thanks, Busto. I agree completely and tried to work on this today. Obviously, these are still terrible, but I feel like they're an improvement, at least in terms of "standing tall." What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ZxLPjWz-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NYOMPL3kY

deadlift 315x5. some solid spitting on reps 4 and 5. I think they look good, mize well make sure. I'm gonna video my squats next workout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQc9RWTRqU

pretty good imo

Today's workout:

100kg deadlift

67kg bench (2nd workset) (sorry about ****ty angle)

50kg powerclean

87kg squat (3rd workset)

Any input appreciated.

until i reach around parallel on the way down, i definitely control the descent. it is quick, but i'm not just falling. at parallel, i "let go" with my legs basically. then my body, with no conscious effort on my part to make it do so, kicks in again right at the moment when my hamstrings and calves get pressed together, which is pretty much as deep as possible. if i think too much, i'll sometimes "begin" my ascent prematurely, and that's the worst thing ever because my momentum is at its highest just before full depth, and starting early only serves to limit any kind of stretch reflex. though i guess the way i describe free falling at the end it doesn't even make sense that i would have a stretch reflex.

PacMan,

I find that chest up and keeping a rock solid lower back is the cue for getting a solid bounce out of the bottom of a HBBS.

Dunno what miles vid you're referring to, was it his xRM or close? If not, exploding up is obv way easier.

exact same. knees out hard when I "let go" as well as chest up. ime tight lower back is not a useful cue here

not sure I ever let go. Don't really think about it. Total zen.

A couple deload week HBBS. Really want to know if this is buttwink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9SCaEEUUVw

2nd set where I tried to go down just until I felt like I might be winking. Better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVI7_mSIttg

Haven't posted a DL in a while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae74_L4QeT4

It seems like you're intentionally cutting your depth. Is that as deep as you can go because of flexibility? My quick thought is if your torso was more erect and you were sitting as far down between your legs as you could go, you wouldn't have the wondering about buttwink problem.

Try this trick from Dan John, it's for front squats but the same principle applies: (from http://danjohn.net/2009/12/the-front-squat/)

So I read the article and tried the door nob thing. What I've found is that in order to get lower, I need to widen my stance significantly, like - sumo wide. I also notice that I really feel it around my hip flexors, as well as in my knees, which makes me wonder it a lot of my issue isn't a hip mobility issue. That said, are there any vids of super long legged lifters squatting with a full ROM? I kinda wonder if it's really not just a physiology issue.

As far as limiting my depth - it was only one of those vids (the one with my shirt untucked less buttwink I *think*) where I didn't go down as far as possible.

Here are some front squats that I'm pretty sure I tried to go down as far as possible. I feel like I get deeper with front squats without losing back tightness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6uym5od2k