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04-30-2011 , 03:34 PM
looks like your back is losing extension at the bottom, which seems pretty common...its called "butt wink" when your butt folds under your back...
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04-30-2011 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by matti5
Started SS recently, any help would be appreciated.
Deadlift:
5x70kg]
To add to cha's comment, I would also think your starting position could use a little tweaking. I think your butt is starting a little too high, putting more emphasis on the back and less on the legs. The very first part of the pull should come from the legs in order to straighten the knees. The back comes in a little bit afterwards.
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04-30-2011 , 05:49 PM
yeah his back is nearly horizontal at the start, but some people have to do it that way because of how they're built. It probably would be a good idea to try and get the butt a bit lower at the start and see how that goes.
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04-30-2011 , 06:23 PM
Presented without comment:

DL 245x5

Comment - I had no idea that guy was staring at me, since I was preoccupied with the guy struggling with the decision whether to use the bench put my camera on.
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05-01-2011 , 09:17 AM
Yeti,

those look good to me. You lose tension somewhat right off the floor, but no biggie.
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05-01-2011 , 11:43 AM
Apparently that guy has never seen someone pickup heavy weights off the floor. Or he thinks you're cute. Weird.
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05-01-2011 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
yeah his back is nearly horizontal at the start, but some people have to do it that way because of how they're built. It probably would be a good idea to try and get the butt a bit lower at the start and see how that goes.
His anthropometry does not necessitate that starting position. You can see that when he breaks the bar off the floor, the first thing it does is travel forward a few inches. That is because when he starts his pull, his shoulders are too far in front of the bar.

Matti, work on hamstring your and glute flexibility. Currently they are too tight for you to have your back in extension at a proper starting position. As they gradually become less tight, you should find that you will be able to get your ass farther back and lower at the start, which will make your arms completely vertical and your shoulder blades directly over the bar as you start your pull.
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05-01-2011 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nortino
Looks like high bar squats?

Regardless, you might want to watch Rip's lower back video. It also appears you are taking in a breath as you go down for the rep instead of breathing in before the rep and holding it. Read the section about the valsalva if you have the SS book.
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05-01-2011 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by zinna
New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5UmX1F_6AI
4x107.5kg squats
Got no reponse so Im bumping
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05-01-2011 , 03:00 PM
Good point Doug - nice post.

solrit - that's a really good video.

zinna - those look pretty good to me.
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05-01-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by solrit
Looks like high bar squats?

Regardless, you might want to watch Rip's lower back video. It also appears you are taking in a breath as you go down for the rep instead of breathing in before the rep and holding it. Read the section about the valsalva if you have the SS book.
Thanks solrit, that is a great video; particularly liked the comedy interlude by Ripp. I can consciously contract / arch the lumbar spine; I haven't been putting any thought into doing so while squatting though, so will definitely focus on this. Again, I haven't been focussing very much on my breathing - will reread the SS chapter and try to become more conscious of this too.

I'm not deliberately trying to do high bar squats; I saw a video by Rip about the value of low bar squats. I think I just have the bar where it feels comfortable at the moment. Thanks again for pointing this out.
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05-01-2011 , 05:08 PM
Sorry, to be clear: what's going on with my lower back here is also referred to as 'butt wink'? I wasn't sure if thirddan's comment was directed at me or matti5. I'm looking at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8CWv8UPAI

and what he shows to describe butt wink at the start looks like my butt I think :-)
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05-01-2011 , 06:51 PM
nortino - high bar squats are fine to do if that's what you're comfortable with. Lots of us here do those - they're a very legit exercise.
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05-01-2011 , 06:54 PM
Form check please. Still working on depth, doing stretches 4-5 times a week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tlM98OY5M
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05-01-2011 , 07:33 PM
If you put your feet a little closer together, that should help your depth.
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05-01-2011 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
If you put your feet a little closer together, that should help your depth.
I will do that, thank you. is the rest of my form passable?
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05-01-2011 , 07:43 PM
I'm not a squat expert, but I dont think its too bad. Try to sit back/push through your heels a bit more. You might like squat shoes instead of putting those plates under your heels. Keep the low back tight.
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05-02-2011 , 11:42 AM
Sets of sumo, press and hang clean Warning: pastey naked man

I think they all look ok, aside from I need to actually finish the clean reps!
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05-02-2011 , 04:52 PM
Trying to figure out the push press

185x1

after the push, should I be re-bending my knees or do I need to keep them locked out?
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05-02-2011 , 05:28 PM
locked. in a jerk you would dip again to catch.
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05-02-2011 , 10:50 PM
Anyone mind dissecting these? I feel like my squat is stalling earlier than it should (DL'd 310x5 and 315x3 last 2 workouts)....have been eating and sleeping well and so not sure if there might be something in the form I need to fix.....maybe I'm just ready to switch to TM, shrug......thanks in advance

http://www.youtube.com/user/rementcn.../3/y80fY0ZGIU8
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05-02-2011 , 10:56 PM
You really need to focus on keep your chest up. You look like you're getting plenty of hip drive.
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05-02-2011 , 11:03 PM
thanks CP. Was feeling like the GM might be becoming an issue. Any suggestions? I feel like when I'm driving out of the bottom with this weight I can't physically get it up unless I drive it with the hips first and then the shoulders :/
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05-02-2011 , 11:09 PM
Just re-watched that last rep...lol no idea how you got that up. I'd be surprised if your back isn't super sore afterwards. You appear too strong to get stuck on 205ish so its a form issue. Maybe do a reset and focus on keeping a constant back angle once hips begin to rise--you're really overemphasizing the hip drive now, losing extension at the bottom, and the weight to shift forward, away from midfoot (which puts you in a disadvantageous position).

One cue that you could use is to think about sliding your nipples up a wall. Basically forces you to have your chest out as much as possible.
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05-02-2011 , 11:13 PM
Checkcall, are you taking a BIG BREATH and TIGHTENING YOUR CORE as hard as you can on each rep? Also some flat shoes would help, or even some oly shoes if you're serious about training and getting stronger.
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