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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
That is because breaking with your hips is how to properly initiate a squat. Much of what you've written ranges between silly and incorrect. I was pointing out how Layne has an exceptionally wide squat (for a raw PLer), which is what you seem to be advising along with some myriad pseudoscience. I think massages are great, but aren't going to make you more flexible.
Hey man, you know it's really easy to think you know everything these days. I'm happy to have a discussion if you want to actually point out what you disagree with and explain why, but I don't really feel like slinging insults back and forth. I'm only here trying to help.
You are indeed correct that the squat is properly initiated by breaking at the hips. If you go back and actually read my post, you will see that I actually say quite the contrary that you don't want to be like Layne doing a good morning, because it will injure your back.
If you watch Kelly Starett's video, you will see that what I'm describing with regards to activating more muscles. Think of a soda can, it's a lot stronger when it's in cylinder shape than say if you dent in a little from the side with your hands.
Here is a breathing and bracing vid that might help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8KV74jJHn0
Start at like 3:30ish if you want to see specifically the squat but I recommend watching the whole thing.
Also if you actually watch the video, the strength seminar part 3, (start @ 10mins) you will see him explain why it is bad for the feet to be too narrow in, because the back breaks at the bottom position.
Here is another video for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsXj2fQ4uow
In this one Ed Coan explains the squat, Wow! He says same things. Who would have thought?
Here is a really long article by Greg Knuckols that really goes in depth with regards to the squat if you are not a big fan of videos:
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/how-to-squat/
The point being is I have done a lot of research on form and technique including other material that I didn't link. I don't claim to have perfect form or know everything but none of what I'm saying is broscience. Look up the credentials of any of the people I posted.
And one last point, actually do some research about the massage before making posts. I'm not going to keep posting the guys name because I'm not affiliated with him or anything like that. Just to give you an idea, this is the machine that is used:
https://hyperice.com/raptor. I'm someone that became more flexible in just one appointment but you can see many people make posts about how it helped their flexibility and form because they could get into better position.