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02-18-2011 , 06:20 AM
The powerlifters at my gym were telling me to do that too when I was using the Rippletoes setup. Reasoning was my legs are stronger than my back. More knee extension involved equals greater lifts according to them.
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02-18-2011 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Barge Ass
The powerlifters at my gym were telling me to do that too when I was using the Rippletoes setup. Reasoning was my legs are stronger than my back. More knee extension involved equals greater lifts according to them.
The problem is there is no logic behind this. As you can see in Khalyn's vid, his knee extension is already done before the bar comes off the floor. Thus, the hamstrings' involvement in the lift is actually minimized.

Now, in other powerlifters you can see a style that is similar (like Pat Mendes), but where his legs aren't completely straight when the bar breaks off the floor. I've seen thremp and prob others argue that Rip exaggerates the effect his technique has on hamstring involvement, which is probably true. Khalyn clearly extends his knees too much before lifting though.

Under any circumstances, I can't see a reason why the non-Ripples setup is actually more effective. Their argument is basically a non-argument, knee extension without lifting is irrelevant.
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02-18-2011 , 08:24 AM
oh sorry i watched another link i think. They had me drive my ass way down before and extend during the lift not before. I felt much less back and way more legs after.
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02-18-2011 , 12:14 PM
Squat set 1 100kg
Squat set 2 100kg

When the weight gets heavy i tend to goodmorning a little bit (which i try to fix by looking up) and lose a bit of depth.

Power clean set 1 40kg
Power clean set 4 40kg
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02-18-2011 , 01:13 PM
@IronEggs

1. Squats seem fine, try keeping your chest up at the hard part though.
2. Where you meet the bar, move your ass back to keep the back fully extended. You now do a hop (backwards) to stabilize. When you shove your ass more back, you can stabilize without having to hop back. When you start doing heavier weights this will become more important.

Goodluck

J
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02-18-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulman
Khalyn,

any reason why you set up so low with your ass instead of following a more Rip-like setup?
I never got the hang of riips setup.
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02-18-2011 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AGame18
Question about the PC.........should the start position be similar to the starting position of the DL or the nadir of a squat, or something different from both?
rip says it should be exactly like a deadlift.

oly lifting coaching say otherwise; sit back more, back more vertical and some other stuff.
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02-18-2011 , 10:59 PM
It's been a while since I've done a form check. Apologies on the vid quality. Forgot my camera and the donk held the phone vertical instead of sideways. ugh.

205x5
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02-18-2011 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Barge Ass
The powerlifters at my gym were telling me to do that too when I was using the Rippletoes setup. Reasoning was my legs are stronger than my back. More knee extension involved equals greater lifts according to them.
and then your ass went right back to where it would have in the rip setup before the bar broke the floor.
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02-18-2011 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by IronEggs
they look OK, but you do start cutting off depth as the set goes on. Everything is shifting a bit forward in the hole and you end up loosing some bounce and hip drive because of it. The weight doesn't look that heavy for you.
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02-19-2011 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
It's been a while since I've done a form check. Apologies on the vid quality. Forgot my camera and the donk held the phone vertical instead of sideways. ugh.

205x5
Looks pretty solid. One thing I would keep an eye on is that your foot angle is pretty extreme which can exaggerate knee cave (which you have a little, but not much).
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02-19-2011 , 02:28 AM
yeah noticed that too. my stance is a little wider than normal too. glad i took vids.
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02-19-2011 , 02:58 AM
Did these a couple of weeks ago and forgot to upload

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9WIwqV2M9I
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02-19-2011 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
The weight doesn't look that heavy for you.
Wow seriously? It felt heavy
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02-19-2011 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Phatony
Did these a couple of weeks ago and forgot to upload

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9WIwqV2M9I
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02-19-2011 , 11:35 AM
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Looks pretty solid. One thing I would keep an eye on is that your foot angle is pretty extreme which can exaggerate knee cave (which you have a little, but not much).
+1, very solid form. Which I guess it should be at what is prob very light for you even with recuperating from the surgery?
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02-19-2011 , 11:37 AM
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they look OK, but you do start cutting off depth as the set goes on. Everything is shifting a bit forward in the hole and you end up loosing some bounce and hip drive because of it. The weight doesn't look that heavy for you.
Really? Thought they looked very close to a 5RM. Agree on comments.
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02-19-2011 , 11:45 AM
yeah his bar-speed is slow and it's heavy the way he's doing it, but I think he squats that a lot easier once he shores up his form.

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+1, very solid form. Which I guess it should be at what is prob very light for you even with recuperating from the surgery?
yeah light weight
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02-19-2011 , 12:03 PM
Ah right, agree on that.
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02-19-2011 , 12:13 PM
Ok that's good to hear
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02-19-2011 , 07:09 PM
Is there anyone here who could form check my front crawl?
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02-19-2011 , 09:09 PM
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Did these a couple of weeks ago and forgot to upload

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9WIwqV2M9I
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02-19-2011 , 09:20 PM
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They look pretty damn good to me.

When you first posted, I was going to guess that you weren't going deep enough. Holy hell was I wrong...
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02-19-2011 , 10:25 PM
knees sliding hard at the bottom. also caving inward it appears
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02-20-2011 , 12:00 AM
Miles: How do I stop knees sliding/what are the negatives associated with sliding? I get the feeling the knees slide as a result of the divebombing I do. As for caving, I don't think they are but I will get a vid tomorrow from behind and post it.

Yetio: Yeh depth has never been an issue for me haha
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