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04-17-2012 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SiQ
i have no clue so don't listen to me, but i think your supposed to be keeping your back more upright the entire motion and leading the knees out a lot more.

edit:
Yeah, I was thinking that was an issue.

AG1: I will try that next week when I do them again.
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04-17-2012 , 01:23 PM
filmed my squats today because of the discussion. mine look so weird I should probably just stop giving advice. I feel like I sit back as much as I can, and you can see that my toes rise after each rep so I'm not leaning forward. knees still look like they cross the pacific before I'm at the bottom though.

I also think I have a pretty extreme back angle and a little bit of good morning going on. is that anything to worry about, or just because of body proportions?




p.s. asian dude in the background was sicko. he was about my size and box squatting 345x6 and parallel squatting 295x6
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04-17-2012 , 02:45 PM
nuggets i think your knees track too far forward. try reaching back with your butt.

the squats are also a touch above parallel. otherwise pretty good.
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04-17-2012 , 02:56 PM
nuggets,

knees are definitely way too far out - like 2-4x as much as they should be. sit back sit back sit back. you really have to picture yourself sitting back into something - not sitting down.
if you look closely at your heels they are coming slightly up (you shouldn't see them move at all). the weight is closer to your toes than your mid-foot a lot of the time. you need to always make sure the weight is over your mid foot and that is a good mental picture to have to help reinforce "sit back" to think of the bar not being allowed to go forward at all past where it is when you're standing.

you may not have a problem with it but it looks like you're also doing what I was doing as far as cranking your elbows skyward. point your elbows down at the floor (the bar will not slide off your back, trust me), really push them. they won't actually be vertical under the bar but they will (and should) be more vertical than they are now.
right now it looks like you're lifting your elbows up to try and create a shelf for the bar - this can lead to problems - for me it was pretty bad pain in the back/shoulder area.
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04-18-2012 , 12:30 AM
AG1,
Looks like you aren't staying patient. IMO, the bar needs to get much higher on the hip- basically the pubic bone with straight arms. You are getting the hips through too early forcing the bar forward and everything is coming with it.
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04-18-2012 , 03:20 AM
thousandth post, over 6 years to get it! Even had the word pubic in it, not bad.
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04-18-2012 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by zinna
He will put his arms around my chest and pull me up. I'm too lazy to set the safety bars.
lolwut

i aksed this same question like 5 pages ago fwiw. imo that guy is much more likely to have the 200 odd pounds dumped in his lap than ever curl you to safety.

and too lazy to set the bars? in that vid they're pretty much already set
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04-18-2012 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash
lolwut

i aksed this same question like 5 pages ago fwiw. imo that guy is much more likely to have the 200 odd pounds dumped in his lap than ever curl you to safety.

and too lazy to set the bars? in that vid they're pretty much already set
As long as the lifter doesn't totally give up it is actually pretty easy to basically bear hug someone from behind and help them up. I just spotted a guy squatting 385 and had no problem assisting him on 2 reps. I was actually surprised how easy it was.
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04-19-2012 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KPowers
thousandth post, over 6 years to get it! Even had the word pubic in it, not bad.
Take notes kids.
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04-19-2012 , 04:52 AM
AG1: Definitely bar path and you are not extending up enough and then you look as though you are diving under the bar.

Skeletor: Back arched and upright, chest way way up, knees forward and go deeper. You start your descent with a lean forward; you should not be leaning forward at all. Also, you look as though you are craning your neck.
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04-20-2012 , 05:53 AM
I finally got around to videotaping my workout the other day again, would really appreciate some feedback.

I feel that my bench is the weakest (form-wise) but that could have something to do with my inability to push past a certain point. But I'm sure there is plenty to criticize on all the lifts.

Squats:

Side view



Back view



Deadlift:



Bench:



Thanks a lot for your guys' help!
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04-20-2012 , 11:13 AM
Raef, I think your squats might be just shy of depth, but I haven't freeze framed it. Certainly wouldnt be a bad thing to go a little past parallel. I like your deadlifts as well.
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04-20-2012 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Raeffnix
I feel that my bench is the weakest (form-wise) but that could have something to do with my inability to push past a certain point.
2 comments on your bench:
1. Not sure what's going on with the bench & your setup, hard to tell. Is that a pad thing? I would work on getting that back arch more solid. Have you seen Dave Tate's benching series (youtube "dave tate so you think you can bench")? It's very informative.
2. Tuck your elbows more, they look pretty flared to me.
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04-20-2012 , 03:53 PM
reaffnix,

squats:
depth looks right on the cusp. i'd say it's fine, but it does look like you're losing tightness at the bottom and getting some rounding which is bad - keep it tight. can't really tell from either angle but make sure you shove your knees outward.
stop cranking your elbows up skyward. point them down at the floor (bar isn't going to slide down your back, trust me). right now your armpit-to-elbow is almost parallel to the floor, it should be a lot closer to vertical (but not actually vertical, ldo).

can't really comment on deads since i suck at them, they look OK, ur possibly breaking knees too early on the descent tho, maybe not, hopefully someone else will comment on this.

bench:
im also having a hard time telling whats going on w/ setup but it looks like you could use more arch and more cue for chest up.
elbows seem to flair out, try keeping them in tighter (~45º angle from your body)
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04-20-2012 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
Raef, I think your squats might be just shy of depth, but I haven't freeze framed it.
depth looks good to me imo, if anything the biggest problem is that his heels appear to be leaving the floor

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Certainly wouldnt be a bad thing to go a little past parallel.
unless it causes him to lose extension
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04-20-2012 , 10:55 PM


Last set of a 5x3 PC. Looking for any feedback- thanks
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04-21-2012 , 02:01 AM
criticize my DL please



i'm trying for correct back angle and lifting the chest but i think i'm failing a little at dragging the bar close to my legs
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04-21-2012 , 11:19 AM
Shamrock20: PC's look pretty good. You can extend up more, shrug the bar more before your elbows bend (turn the elbows out and will force you to do that-practice light) and drive through more so that you come up onto your toes before getting air. You look as though you are forcing your jump from a flat footed position.
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04-21-2012 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash
depth looks good to me imo, if anything the biggest problem is that his heels appear to be leaving the floor



unless it causes him to lose extension
i missed that he is losing extension on first viewing, but i think he loses it only a little bit. if depth causes it to become worse, then obviously it's a bigger problem.

i don't really see his heels coming up either. i think that's just how his chucks get bent with the ankle moving forward. maybe they are half a size too big.
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04-21-2012 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
i missed that he is losing extension on first viewing, but i think he loses it only a little bit. if depth causes it to become worse, then obviously it's a bigger problem.

i don't really see his heels coming up either. i think that's just how his chucks get bent with the ankle moving forward. maybe they are half a size too big.
right, I'm not saying his loss of extension is terrible. My point was that since his depth is already fine, why risk getting an inch or two more past parallel if it'll cause significant rounding (which you seem to agree with)

and idk how you can't see his heels coming up. I mean I guess it could just be his shoes bending but that seems strange.
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04-21-2012 , 11:14 PM
2nd time doing sumo deadlift

1x425



Should I start with my hips lower?
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04-22-2012 , 01:57 AM
DL criticism pretty plz? im going back into heavy SS routine and i dont want to have bad form and screw up my back

its either the generosity of H&F or im gonna have to hire a coach at crossfit or something :O
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04-22-2012 , 02:46 AM
Clayton, they don't looked locked in. At light weight like that a DL can look pretty good, unlike most other lifts form really breaks down when the weight gets heavy. Those look pretty good but they also don't look hard.



How's my last rep doin?
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04-22-2012 , 02:03 PM
Clayton:

KP is correct. not really enough weight to bring out any problems. Looked pretty good as is. I think you could possibly set up a little closer to the bar. You could also drops your hips a bit. Focus on keeping your back slightly arched or neutral. Consider rounding a fail.

Push through with your hips at the lock out. Don't hyper extend your back to do it. If you're going to breathe out at the top (which is fine imo), reset before you lower the weight.
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04-22-2012 , 05:44 PM
Thanks!
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