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Old 07-22-2021, 11:46 PM   #2076
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Calorie totals for the last few days.
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Old 07-24-2021, 11:20 AM   #2077
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Old 07-25-2021, 10:44 AM   #2078
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Old 07-25-2021, 05:07 PM   #2079
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I'll take 5 6" spicy italians for 600 cals please.
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Old 07-25-2021, 11:35 PM   #2080
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Lol
I'm only eating partial sandwiches, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 AM   #2082
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I want to be at a 1k deficit, so 1200-1600

I don't trust TDEE cals anymore and think my metabolism slowed significantly after the first weight loss or something is jacking with it. Maybe hormones.....I have straggly hairs growing on my chin now and am starting to cross over to old lady territory.

What's your current weight?
You've made terrific progress, so I don't know that I'd worry too much it. Just adjust caloric intake as needed to keep up your progress.

You're showing daily calories burned around 2600-2800 most days. I think your BMR is around 1650 calories or so, now that you're 188 lb (I don't have all of your info for the calculation, so that's an estimate). You may be burning 950 to 1150 kcal per day through exercise (as that includes walking), so that could be right if that's how you're arriving at your daily calories used. If you're just assuming you exercise that much, that could lead to an overestimation.

I'm not discounting the possibility that your metabolism is temporary more efficient. I'm just suggesting starting off by checking the numbers. If all else fails, you can compare expected weight loss to actual weight loss and adjust your TDEE (or BMR and add exercise to that) accordingly.

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Old Yesterday, 06:56 AM   #2083
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Re: H&F Advice Applepied

I would have thought 2,000 is on the high side for BMR, my random guess would be around 1,500.

Arjun mentioned ITT that he thinks Fitbits materially over-estimates calories out. I've been too lazy to check for myself, but I think that is likely to be true for me as well. (If my Fitbit estimated deficit is around 300 a day, that seems to be around maintenance, although I haven't examined the data closely enough to be sure.)

It doesn't really matter what one's BMR is; or if Fitbit under or over-estimates calories out - the key thing is to look at some real-life data and adjust as appropriate.
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Old Yesterday, 12:00 PM   #2084
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I would have thought 2,000 is on the high side for BMR, my random guess would be around 1,500.
Yep. It's closer to 1650, give or take. I'll edit the post accordingly.

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Arjun mentioned ITT that he thinks Fitbits materially over-estimates calories out. I've been too lazy to check for myself, but I think that is likely to be true for me as well. (If my Fitbit estimated deficit is around 300 a day, that seems to be around maintenance, although I haven't examined the data closely enough to be sure.)

It doesn't really matter what one's BMR is; or if Fitbit under or over-estimates calories out - the key thing is to look at some real-life data and adjust as appropriate.
Yes, it doesn't really matter. Just track everything and use real-world results to adjust.

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Old Yesterday, 12:23 PM   #2085
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For the past two weeks my average calorie intake was 1218 and had a 2.4lb loss over the two weeks. That puts my TDEE at 1818(my BMR would be around 1200), this is about 1000cal/day less than what Fitbit is giving and is pretty damn low. This is with an average of 10.2k steps per day.

It's period week so water retention is having an affect. When I log consistently for a few more weeks I'll get a better idea of my actual TDEE. I'm already so low on calories and don't want to go below 1k intake, I'll have to increase exercise.

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You walk 5 miles per day? Wat.

You use to walk 5 miles per week.
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Old Yesterday, 01:15 PM   #2087
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Maybe do the same calculation for the past four weeks? It's called a period because it's periodic, of course, so getting one cycle should negate that (as four weeks ago you were presumably retaining water too). Or, go from six weeks ago to two weeks ago to be clear of that effect but still at one cycle?

On 7/18, you were 188.1 lbs (congrats). One 6/20, you were 193.9 lbs. So, that's a delta of -5.8 lbs (congrats ). That's 1lb/month more than your past two weeks (-2.4 lbs/2 weeks). Adjusting your calculations accordingly, your BMR would be 1325 cal and your TDEE would be 1943 cal.

You could be missing added butter, oils, and other condiments in your log, or could be underestimating portion sizes. Or, you could be running a bit more efficiently (i.e. slower metabolism). And, of course, your FitBit could be optimistic. Maybe check to see that it has your current weight. And, if you can't find anything from any of that, just adjust the data by your weight loss and go with it, as you have been.

Nutritionally, I'd consider replacing sugary drinks with low calorie versions and using those formerly wasted calories on stuff more protein-rich. You'll be more satiated and have the building blocks you need while on a caloric deficit.
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Yeah, I only have two full weeks of logging cals and need to get 4 more weeks for an accurate TDEE.

Sugary drinks are still my Achilles heel and should be the first thing gone with any weight loss attempt. It's harder when playing tournaments and trying to get a quick energy fix during breaks.
I still drink diet sodas non stop throughout the day. Quitting smoking has to be first and then weening off sodas.
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Yeah, I only have two full weeks of logging cals and need to get 4 more weeks for an accurate TDEE.

Sugary drinks are still my Achilles heel and should be the first thing gone with any weight loss attempt. It's harder when playing tournaments and trying to get a quick energy fix during breaks.
I still drink diet sodas non stop throughout the day. Quitting smoking has to be first and then weening off sodas.
Lol at weening off soda. Grow a sack and quit both the smokes and soda today and move on.
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Old Yesterday, 04:54 PM   #2090
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You walk 5 miles per day? Wat.

You use to walk 5 miles per week.
Yep!!! It's mostly due to work. I try to get up and walk once an hour if I'm not already outside working on something. My attention span has also gone down these days and I can't focus sitting at a desk all day anymore, this has helped with not being sedentary all day.
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Lol at weening off soda. Grow a sack and quit both the smokes and soda today and move on.
It will have to be this weekend. I can't be at work on my period and having nicotine+caffeine withdrawals. I'm trying to avoid the ***** stigma that comes with being the only woman working with all men.
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It will have to be this weekend. I can't be at work on my period and having nicotine+caffeine withdrawals. I'm trying to avoid the ***** stigma that comes with being the only woman working with all men.
There's always a reason. Funny how it works that way, eh?
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