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07-30-2021 , 12:35 AM
I haven't read Atomic Habits Loco, I will.

Rich, I've got one vitamin water left. I've got to get some of that zero calorie squit stuff to get more water in and taper off diet sodas.
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07-30-2021 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Muny
And, maybe we should all reject sugary Vitamin Water on general principle. Their use of a healthy-sounding name on such a product strikes me as wrong on many levels.
This is done with most all things, some of which you consume just like MLY does.
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07-30-2021 , 11:56 AM
I am pretty educated on what I consume. Yes, there is some marketing "puffery" with pretty much all food for sale. Knowing you, I imagine you'd put milk close to the top of that list. But, at least that's up for debate, and there's plenty to be said in favor of milk.

That's not the case for full sugar Vitamin Water. It's sugar water with some vitamin powder and artificial flavor sprinkled in. It would be like Coke (owner of Vitamin Water, FWIW) advertising drinking a can of Coke with a vitamin pill as "vitamin Coke."
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07-30-2021 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Rich, I've got one vitamin water left. I've got to get some of that zero calorie squit stuff to get more water in and taper off diet sodas.
Give it to a coworker (preferably one of the ones you don't like) and pick up some Vitamin Water Zero Sugar instead.
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07-30-2021 , 02:46 PM
It says right on the website that these are for my health, so they must be good for me!

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07-30-2021 , 03:09 PM
Yep. Again, it's common. I made one in an air fryer. There was so much oil that I had to pour it out, like pouring out water. Healthier than a burger? Maybe, but people consuming more of them as a result of the phony health halo (the SnackWell effect) would result in a less healthy diet.

I actually just recently reviewed that exact product over in the vegan thread and came to the same conclusion.
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07-31-2021 , 01:09 AM
I tested positive for Covid today. Lost my sense of taste and smell last night and went straight to get a test this morning. I don't feel that bad, like I have really bad allergies and just a little tired so hopefully it doesn't get worse.

Since I can't taste anything I'm going to down a bunch of spinach smoothies and plain oats and get some extra weight off the next couple of weeks.
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07-31-2021 , 01:50 AM
You didnt get vaccinated?
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07-31-2021 , 02:04 AM
I did get vaccinated, then went to the dang casino thinking it was safe.
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07-31-2021 , 02:27 AM
DANG IT!
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07-31-2021 , 10:54 AM
So unlucky
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07-31-2021 , 11:50 AM
Damn my life luck.

It helps that I'm not in the obese category anymore, am 10months out from surgery, and the risk of hospitalization or death is extremely low after being vaccinated.
Still freaking smoking though.
No better time than now to quit while in quarantine and working from home.
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07-31-2021 , 02:33 PM
Sorry to hear. Get well soon!
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08-01-2021 , 10:14 AM
Thank you Rich. It's really not that bad other than no sense of taste and smell. Slept 10hrs on Friday/Saturday and don't feel tired today.

Sat 7/31 log:
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08-01-2021 , 10:46 AM
Nice day but where are the missing calorie logs?

And where are my steps screenshot logs?

Maybe also need daily cigs log.


Look, you probably got 5 years of your missing 20 years, back. Thats good. But what about the other 15?

Go, go, go. Dont care that you got the corona, walk, walk, walk. Swim, swim, swim.

You are an athletic swimming/softball champion. Start acting like one. If you dont, your daughter gonna turn into a fattie instead of getting a full ride to UT.
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08-01-2021 , 11:04 AM
Yesterday i was getting an acai bowl as a little fattie kid complained to his fattie mom that he didnt like anything on the food menu. She then said what about this cinnamon roll, which was about the size of his head. He said yes.

And it makes me wonder, what percentage of american fatness is due to parents eating habits. Its gotta be close to 100%. This slow metabolism, impaired hormones bullshiet is like .1%.

So time to look back at your history and break the chain. Make her into a champion. You know how to do it. Break these atomic bad habits that have kept you down. Unleash the beast within.

5'7 190 is weaksauce, thats not a champion. Well unless you a black running back with freak genetics, maybe Barry Sanders. Do you look like Barry Sanders?
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08-01-2021 , 01:13 PM
Step counts not looking so good this past week. I did do 2hrs of intense cardio (volleyball) on Tuesday without my Fitbit on and 1hr of yoga on Thursday.

Today I am cleaning the house and weeding in the backyard. I'm starting to feel tired again, got worn out taking a shower.

Today and tomorrow will be a taper down days on cigs(10) and Tuesday will be none. I'm going to start the Chantix again today+reread the non-smoking book and hope I don't feel nauseated.

I am seriously worried for my daughter. She has gained a lot of weight this summer. She has been with her dad most of the summer eating cereal, fast food, and all kinds of fried food. His family is really really bad about treating food as a reward and I'm having to undo that thought process with her. And then code3 is buying her ice cream and pizza nonstop to eat during the days while I'm at work after I have filled the fridge with healthy food. She and code3 have been staying up really late and he has also been taking her to Whataburger in the middle of the night. He and her dad are trying to make her happy with food....It's driving me nuts.
If I get berries, oranges, and cherry tomatoes she will always eat those up. School starts next week, so hopefully she gets back to a normal eating routine, can get back in basketball soon, and a growth spurt can offset her summer weight gain.
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08-01-2021 , 08:45 PM
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Yesterday i was getting an acai bowl as a little fattie kid complained to his fattie mom that he didnt like anything on the food menu. She then said what about this cinnamon roll, which was about the size of his head. He said yes.

And it makes me wonder, what percentage of american fatness is due to parents eating habits. Its gotta be close to 100%. This slow metabolism, impaired hormones bullshiet is like .1%.

So time to look back at your history and break the chain. Make her into a champion. You know how to do it. Break these atomic bad habits that have kept you down. Unleash the beast within.

5'7 190 is weaksauce, thats not a champion. Well unless you a black running back with freak genetics, maybe Barry Sanders. Do you look like Barry Sanders?
This is just the quintessential loco truth bomb. Love it.

I'd have gone with Maurice Jones-Drew instead of Sanders, but otherwise solid post.
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08-01-2021 , 08:49 PM
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Yesterday i was getting an acai bowl as a little fattie kid complained to his fattie mom that he didnt like anything on the food menu. She then said what about this cinnamon roll, which was about the size of his head. He said yes.

And it makes me wonder, what percentage of american fatness is due to parents eating habits. Its gotta be close to 100%. This slow metabolism, impaired hormones bullshiet is like .1%.

So time to look back at your history and break the chain. Make her into a champion. You know how to do it. Break these atomic bad habits that have kept you down. Unleash the beast within.

5'7 190 is weaksauce, thats not a champion. Well unless you a black running back with freak genetics, maybe Barry Sanders. Do you look like Barry Sanders?
Believe the studies say it’s nature not nurture. So yes, genetics over what your parents fed you growing up is a much bigger indicator.
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08-01-2021 , 09:08 PM
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Believe the studies say it’s nature not nurture. So yes, genetics over what your parents fed you growing up is a much bigger indicator.
So the difference between two kids, one fat and one fit, is genetics? I guess if genetics includes round-the-clock pizza rolls and PlayStation or apples (not Honeycrisp) and baseball.
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08-01-2021 , 09:13 PM
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This is just the quintessential loco truth bomb. Love it.

I'd have gone with Maurice Jones-Drew instead of Sanders, but otherwise solid post.
On a scale of 1-10, just how much visible non-vocal disapproval did loco display during their perusal of the menu for her kid's meal? I'm going with a 4, but they saw a 6 but didn't realize his huffing was over them.
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08-01-2021 , 09:39 PM
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So the difference between two kids, one fat and one fit, is genetics? I guess if genetics includes round-the-clock pizza rolls and PlayStation or apples (not Honeycrisp) and baseball.
Yes, iirc they’ve shown it in twins separated at birth.

No, genetics does not include those things, it does impact food choices, NEAT, where you store fat, etc.

It’s interesting where y’all want to place the “blame” here. First of all you’re very likely wrong, secondly I don’t see how it’s any way it’s helpful.

Btw, I’m not excusing MLYLT at all here, she needs to be seeing an obesity specialist along with her psychologist.
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08-01-2021 , 10:00 PM
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Believe the studies say it’s nature not nurture. So yes, genetics over what your parents fed you growing up is a much bigger indicator.
Link to studies?

I believe it to be 99% environment.

With my sister's and myself our eating habits have a lot to do with emotional regulation which is largely genetic, but learning to self regulate emotions is a learned skill we did not learn and could have offset the eating as self medicating.

People using food as a reward and wiring kids minds this way is environment.

Most of the elementary kids are overweight now; it's the school lunches and them letting the kids go back for as much food as they want. Having been a kid that relied on school lunches for all of my food, I can see they are ensuring the kids without food at home get enough to eat. They should instead limit the lunch calories and send the disadvantaged kids home with an extra meal.
It's not genetic if only a handful of kids in the school are normal weight.

All this horseshit about it being a person's genetics and "my body is different" is a fatties way of not accepting responsibility for their choices and real issues for being fat. In adults, it's their unresolved emotions, lack of techniques to regulate emotions, thought processes toward food as rewards or a fix, and lack of education regarding calories/ nutrients. All environment.
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08-01-2021 , 10:07 PM
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Yes, iirc they’ve shown it in twins separated at birth.

No, genetics does not include those things, it does impact food choices, NEAT, where you store fat, etc.

It’s interesting where y’all want to place the “blame” here. First of all you’re very likely wrong, secondly I don’t see how it’s any way it’s helpful.

Btw, I’m not excusing MLYLT at all here, she needs to be seeing an obesity specialist along with her psychologist.
Genetics does not make a 5'4" 12-year-old 200 lbs. Those genetic differences you mentioned are negligible, and I'm not sure how genetics makes someone choose a pizza over a salad.

It's like the skinny-fats that say a 6-pack is genetics. No, the type of definition of your 6-pack is genetic; losing the fat and gaining the muscle to have a visible 6-pack anyone without a medical condition can do.

I didn't blame anyone, but it's unusual to see obese parents at the store with kids over the age of 10 that are with them who are thin, and their cart is always filled with garbage with 3-5 bags of family-sized chips safely placed on top of the tubs of ice cream.
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08-01-2021 , 10:16 PM
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Most of the elementary kids are overweight now; it's the school lunches and them letting the kids go back for as much food as they want.
Weekday lunch (for 9 months of the year) is not what's making kids obese.
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