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11-23-2011 , 07:52 PM
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11-23-2011 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DWarrior
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hahahaha, sooooo good!
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11-23-2011 , 08:32 PM
y'all have some fragile friends, but i guess that's just how people are built mentally nowadays.
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11-23-2011 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HalfSlant
Yeah, "lead by example" has worked to get a friend of mine started on SS.
Getting my housemate on 5x5 program and watching him stick with it made me feel pretty damn happy. Leading by example is definitely the way to go if you're able to do that
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11-23-2011 , 09:24 PM
SWEET BRAG

One of the stronger dudes at my gym whom which I am amicable with was watching me deadlift today and after I finished he goes
"Your back is..."
I said "Yeah was my back a little round there? lol"(el oh el obv)
he goes "nah, its STRONG, you keep it so straight all the way to the top."

This guy's in the gym a lot and he's always squatting 3xx or deadlifting 4xx, pretty darn awesome. I owe it all to you guyz <3

Last edited by KPowers; 11-23-2011 at 09:24 PM. Reason: 335 new pr #ImSoAwesome
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11-23-2011 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I have an observation about an observation.

I was watching "Biggest Loser" the other day (a crazy show where people shed tears of shame over losing "only" eight pounds in a week...I understand that it's a contest and that there is disappointment about not winning, but shame over eight pounds lost?). A contestant said she tried a commercial gym and felt that everyone was staring at her as if she was unwelcome at the place. She said she knew this because, as the regulars were fit, that was obviously the standard by which everyone is judged.

I've been training in commercial gym for a long time and have not once heard one person say anyone did not belong in the gym because of fitness level, yet I keep hearing about this phenomenon. They never report that gym members said a single impolite word to them, either. Rather, they say they feel they got funny looks, which caused them to feel embarrassment and hurt their feelings.

I tend to think this is caused by preconceptions many may have toward the attitudes of gym regulars.

Regardless, it is odd that this comes up so often, yet there is seemingly no evidence behind it. I personally think it's a misconception, but what do you all think?
People that have never been fatties have a harder time understanding this concept imo. If you're just skinny-fat, you can pass for being in shape even if you've never done cardio or lifted a weight in your life. However, if you're visibly fatter, you cant just pretend to be in shape. People see you're a fatass.

Most people at the gym I go to seem really nice, but if you think someone who is obese doesn't get looks at the gym, maybe you're just not paying attention. It's often subtle, but I can understand where the really obese people are coming from even if I was never THAT obese. Thankfully, I never really caught anyone giving me those types of looks, but I was still pretty self-conscious about my weight.

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Originally Posted by HalfSlant
Pretty common feeling among gym noobs. Myself included. I was just scared of looking like an idiot at first, not any body image issues.

I don't think most people notice or care what others are doing or how they look. I'm sure there are people who make fun of fatties though.
Pretty much this, although for me personally I might have a body image issue to some degree.

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Originally Posted by zinna
+1 for being scared of looking like an idiot in the beginning
Yup.

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
IMO a lot of the time the hyper self conciousness and lack of self esteem that goes along with being out of shape or even just a female in a male dominated environment, makes people see and experience things that aren't there. My GF was like this for example, she didn't want to go to the free weights area because she was sure men were looking at her and laughing. After going a few times and forcing her she realised she was being silly and that people don't care.
Also true.

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch
Also, re noobs being self conscious...

I have finally convinced a mate to start lifting... Actually, he tried one other time and quit after one session... This time he has made two sessions...

Aaaanyway. He is so self conscious that he won't lift in a public gym and will only lift in my home gym... And this is coming from a 29 year old male... A very small 29 year old male... but still.
Getting started really is the most difficult part to changing one's lifestyle. I dont care if that sounds cliche, it's the truth. When I finally took the step to go with a friend and get a gym membership, I remember it was a little intimidating. And then when I finally started going to the gym by myself, I would only lift at like 5:30 in the morning when I knew there would be no one else there. Eventually I stopped caring as much who saw me or what they thought of my lifts, but when I first started out it wasn't that way.

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Originally Posted by SaiYeN
Ten years ago when i first wanted to get in shape i was too embarassed at how weak i was to even go to the gym. Hell a set of curls with a 10lb dumbbell was all i could do. I was just skin and bones back then, 5'11 and 125lbs. It wasnt until after 3-4 months of stuffing my face to get to 145lbs did i feel i wouldnt be too weak to go to the gym.
See, I appreciate this side of it now. I never ever really thought of skinny people having this problem because every time I saw a skinny person stuffing his face I'd get jealous and be all like "look at that ****face stuffing his face, if I ate like that I'd be even fatter than I already am!" Little did I realize maybe they have their own body image issues and need to stuff their face in order to gain weight, even if they're not always hungry.

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Originally Posted by KPowers
To all fatties reading this:

Where are you more likely to be judged, and where would you RATHER be judged?

-At a gym, trying to improve yourself

-McDonalds, eating french fries
A. at a gym
B. at McDonalds

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Originally Posted by Hardball47
We judge people all of the time. It's not an inherently negative thing to do. We need to do it to assess our surroundings the people we interact with. Some people overdo it and treat others negatively as a result of those judgements. I think that's the "judgmental" part of a character flaw that people usually refer to.
Good post.

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Originally Posted by bearz
on the topic of being judged and gym noobs, anyone find any particularly good ways to get extremely overweight people into the gym ? there are a couple friends and relatives i'd love to get started in it, but it's really hard to ever bring up since they're (rightfully) sensitive about the subject matter

i'm guessing dieting at home before hitting the gym is the only real option, since they'll feel more motivated and confident after dropping 10-20 pounds even if they're still really big
Imo, they have to want it for themselves first. For me it started with diet. However, this forum (and its members, obv) also helped me tremendously. My advice would be (as others already mentioned) to lead by example, and when an opportunity presents itself, invite him along to the gym with you.
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11-23-2011 , 11:02 PM
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SWEET BRAG

One of the stronger dudes at my gym whom which I am amicable with was watching me deadlift today and after I finished he goes
"Your back is..."
I said "Yeah was my back a little round there? lol"(el oh el obv)
he goes "nah, its STRONG, you keep it so straight all the way to the top."

This guy's in the gym a lot and he's always squatting 3xx or deadlifting 4xx, pretty darn awesome. I owe it all to you guyz <3
Like a baws. Good stuff.
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11-24-2011 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dmisfh1
People that have never been fatties have a harder time understanding this concept imo. If you're just skinny-fat, you can pass for being in shape even if you've never done cardio or lifted a weight in your life. However, if you're visibly fatter, you cant just pretend to be in shape. People see you're a fatass.

Most people at the gym I go to seem really nice, but if you think someone who is obese doesn't get looks at the gym, maybe you're just not paying attention. It's often subtle, but I can understand where the really obese people are coming from even if I was never THAT obese.
Perhaps there is a subtle glance by some here and there. Many glances may actually be innocent looks in a general direction that are misinterpreted by those who misunderstand the gym culture and think the gym is a place of judgment. I imagine glances are less common than at other public places.

I'm really talking about new lifters who claim they get looks of disgust from all the regulars to make it clear that they are not welcome there and they don't belong there.

I hear these folks describe, in vivid detail, a culture where everyone is judged on looks and strength, where the gym culture is a like a high school clique. Their evidence is nothing but, "what do you think it would be....they lift all the time."

The guy on Biggest Loser whom I mentioned earlier said that when he first went into a commercial gym, no one thought he belonged there. Now, they can't believe how fast he runs on the treadmill. I'm glad I don't have to break it to him that no one cared about his size before, and no one cares about how fast he runs now. We're too concerned about our own lifting.

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Thankfully, I never really caught anyone giving me those types of looks, but I was still pretty self-conscious about my weight.
Perhaps some are self-conscious and project those ideas onto the gym culture.

The funny thing, again, is that it's totally wrong. Many gym regulars are there because they wish to improve their conditioning. Some were obese in the past themselves. Others needed to gain size and strength. Even the most athletic lifters probably had a time or two where they took too much time away from the gym and got out of shape.

I've been training in commercial gyms for a long time. I never, ever had someone come up to me as say, "Hey, get a look at that guy. What's he doing here?" It just doesn't happen. If someone did, he'd get some disgusted responses, as most of us think that's exactly the right step for anyone wishing to get into shape.
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11-24-2011 , 02:41 AM
was squatting today, dreading my monstterrr 215 workset (which i knew would suck because 210 was brutal). got set, took my breath, dropped down and...my boxers tore. all the way up the back, parallel with my ass crack.

needless to say it caught me off guard, i failed the rep, and the rest was downhill from there. my shorts didnt tear, so no one knew thankfully. also, as my roommate pointed out, now i can take dumps in those boxers without having to take off my boxers haha.
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11-24-2011 , 04:05 AM
EVERYONE SHUUTUP AND STOP BEING SO F*CKNIG SENSITIVE
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11-24-2011 , 04:47 AM
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long stuff
I cant really speak for American gyms anymore (havent been to once since highschool or college i guess) but out here in china i can see why it would be intimidating.

a significantly less percentage of the population works out in china (due to terrible gym hours, long work hours, lazyness and general poorness of people). I dont know what percentage of americans work out (maybe like 1%?) but its easily less than 1/10th of that here.

But when i go in to the gym i see people that really dont look like chinese people. They are in shape, and many are really cut. I can see how some fatty or some ridiculously skinny guy would be intimidated trying to use the bench machine after a guy was just repping 300 lbs on it.

For me, i have just never really cared what some uneducated ****** from rural china thinks about me. they have something to say the can *****.
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11-24-2011 , 04:55 AM
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EVERYONE SHUUTUP AND STOP BEING SO F*CKNIG SENSITIVE
THIS

YOUR FATTY FRIENDS AND RELATIVES CAN FRY IN THEIR OWN GREASE FIRES
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11-24-2011 , 05:43 AM
I judge fat people, but normally for their terrible excersising.

Big fat middle age woman doing 500 low weight chest variations, that's not gonna tone your saggy boobies... sorry lady.
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11-24-2011 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by n4rf
Really? I think people would be more concerned with body image than health

I don't know, I could be wrong
The really fat blokes I know are more concerned with health. They know that even if they lose 50lbs they'll still be quite a fat bloke but they will be able to walk up stairs.

I'm actually going to take up fencing soon to encourage one big guy to be regularly active, plus it might be fun.
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11-24-2011 , 11:37 AM
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I'm actually going to take up fencing soon to encourage one big guy to be regularly active, plus it might be fun.
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11-24-2011 , 01:14 PM
Guy stuck a plate under the "feet" end of the decline bench, I guess it wasn't declined enough?
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11-24-2011 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bixby snyder
Guy stuck a plate under the "feet" end of the decline bench, I guess it wasn't declined enough?
Standard...

...every gym I have ever gone to there are plates to decline it more, generally more so for sit ups.
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11-24-2011 , 04:31 PM
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Standard...

...every gym I have ever gone to there are plates to decline it more, generally more so for sit ups.
Definitely standard, and apparently super-effective, as the people who do this are invariably too spent to rerack the plate.
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11-24-2011 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RosieTheGreat
But when i go in to the gym i see people that really dont look like chinese people. They are in shape, and many are really cut. I can see how some fatty or some ridiculously skinny guy would be intimidated trying to use the bench machine after a guy was just repping 300 lbs on it.
It may be intimidating for some new lifters, sure, but it's not the gym culture or the experienced lifter making it intimidating.
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11-24-2011 , 05:25 PM
Yeah, it's the judgmental people judging themselves.
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11-24-2011 , 10:11 PM
I was working out with a friend once and ripped my boxers at the bottom of a squat. At the time it felt like my friend smacked my ass at the bottom of my squat so i racked the weight and yelled at him. He was really confused and it wasn't until like 5 minutes later that I realized that my boxers were pretty much torn in half.

edit: I then told him what happened and of course finished the workout w/o caring.

I've ripped ~4 pairs of boxers before and each time I thought it sounded really loud. But no one seemed to notice unless i tell them what just happened.

Last edited by Raydain; 11-24-2011 at 10:22 PM.
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11-24-2011 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by n4rf
Getting my housemate on 5x5 program and watching him stick with it made me feel pretty damn happy. Leading by example is definitely the way to go if you're able to do that
agreed, it can definitely be tough to get them on board, but try to help if you can
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11-25-2011 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Raydain
I was working out with a friend once and ripped my boxers at the bottom of a squat. At the time it felt like my friend smacked my ass at the bottom of my squat so i racked the weight and yelled at him. He was really confused and it wasn't until like 5 minutes later that I realized that my boxers were pretty much torn in half.

edit: I then told him what happened and of course finished the workout w/o caring.

I've ripped ~4 pairs of boxers before and each time I thought it sounded really loud. But no one seemed to notice unless i tell them what just happened.
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11-25-2011 , 01:03 AM
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+1

and best boxers just in general, those bitches dont move
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11-25-2011 , 08:25 PM
I was resting in between DL sets and this skinny bro walks up to bar using I'm, looks around, does a Picard style wtfisthis****.jpg hand gesture and shakes his head. All throughout this, I'm sitting right next to him and he doesn't notice me and realize that I may be using the bar. LOL

Funny, unaware guy.
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