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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I have an observation about an observation.
I was watching "Biggest Loser" the other day (a crazy show where people shed tears of shame over losing "only" eight pounds in a week...I understand that it's a contest and that there is disappointment about not winning, but shame over eight pounds lost?). A contestant said she tried a commercial gym and felt that everyone was staring at her as if she was unwelcome at the place. She said she knew this because, as the regulars were fit, that was obviously the standard by which everyone is judged.
I've been training in commercial gym for a long time and have not once heard one person say anyone did not belong in the gym because of fitness level, yet I keep hearing about this phenomenon. They never report that gym members said a single impolite word to them, either. Rather, they say they feel they got funny looks, which caused them to feel embarrassment and hurt their feelings.
I tend to think this is caused by preconceptions many may have toward the attitudes of gym regulars.
Regardless, it is odd that this comes up so often, yet there is seemingly no evidence behind it. I personally think it's a misconception, but what do you all think?
People that have never been fatties have a harder time understanding this concept imo. If you're just skinny-fat, you can pass for being in shape even if you've never done cardio or lifted a weight in your life. However, if you're visibly fatter, you cant just pretend to be in shape. People see you're a fatass.
Most people at the gym I go to seem really nice, but if you think someone who is obese doesn't get looks at the gym, maybe you're just not paying attention. It's often subtle, but I can understand where the really obese people are coming from even if I was never THAT obese. Thankfully, I never really caught anyone giving me
those types of looks, but I was still pretty self-conscious about my weight.
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Originally Posted by HalfSlant
Pretty common feeling among gym noobs. Myself included. I was just scared of looking like an idiot at first, not any body image issues.
I don't think most people notice or care what others are doing or how they look. I'm sure there are people who make fun of fatties though.
Pretty much this, although for me personally I might have a body image issue to some degree.
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Originally Posted by zinna
+1 for being scared of looking like an idiot in the beginning
Yup.
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
IMO a lot of the time the hyper self conciousness and lack of self esteem that goes along with being out of shape or even just a female in a male dominated environment, makes people see and experience things that aren't there. My GF was like this for example, she didn't want to go to the free weights area because she was sure men were looking at her and laughing. After going a few times and forcing her she realised she was being silly and that people don't care.
Also true.
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Originally Posted by 00Snitch
Also, re noobs being self conscious...
I have finally convinced a mate to start lifting... Actually, he tried one other time and quit after one session... This time he has made two sessions...
Aaaanyway. He is so self conscious that he won't lift in a public gym and will only lift in my home gym... And this is coming from a 29 year old male... A very small 29 year old male... but still.
Getting started really is the most difficult part to changing one's lifestyle. I dont care if that sounds cliche, it's the truth. When I finally took the step to go with a friend and get a gym membership, I remember it was a little intimidating. And then when I finally started going to the gym by myself, I would only lift at like 5:30 in the morning when I knew there would be no one else there. Eventually I stopped caring as much who saw me or what they thought of my lifts, but when I first started out it wasn't that way.
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Originally Posted by SaiYeN
Ten years ago when i first wanted to get in shape i was too embarassed at how weak i was to even go to the gym. Hell a set of curls with a 10lb dumbbell was all i could do. I was just skin and bones back then, 5'11 and 125lbs. It wasnt until after 3-4 months of stuffing my face to get to 145lbs did i feel i wouldnt be too weak to go to the gym.
See, I appreciate this side of it now. I never ever really thought of skinny people having this problem because every time I saw a skinny person stuffing his face I'd get jealous and be all like "look at that ****face stuffing his face, if I ate like that I'd be even fatter than I already am!" Little did I realize maybe they have their own body image issues and need to stuff their face in order to gain weight, even if they're not always hungry.
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Originally Posted by KPowers
To all fatties reading this:
Where are you more likely to be judged, and where would you RATHER be judged?
-At a gym, trying to improve yourself
-McDonalds, eating french fries
A. at a gym
B. at McDonalds
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
We judge people all of the time. It's not an inherently negative thing to do. We need to do it to assess our surroundings the people we interact with. Some people overdo it and treat others negatively as a result of those judgements. I think that's the "judgmental" part of a character flaw that people usually refer to.
Good post.
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Originally Posted by bearz
on the topic of being judged and gym noobs, anyone find any particularly good ways to get extremely overweight people into the gym ? there are a couple friends and relatives i'd love to get started in it, but it's really hard to ever bring up since they're (rightfully) sensitive about the subject matter
i'm guessing dieting at home before hitting the gym is the only real option, since they'll feel more motivated and confident after dropping 10-20 pounds even if they're still really big
Imo, they have to want it for themselves first. For me it started with diet. However, this forum (and its members, obv) also helped me tremendously. My advice would be (as others already mentioned) to lead by example, and when an opportunity presents itself, invite him along to the gym with you.