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I dunno, sitting on your couch alone eating ice cream is a pretty judgement free zone.

I think ive posted this before, but i saw the anorexic twins again this morning at the gym cardiotarding, and it made me feel very sad. I hope they have people that care for them and are trying to help.

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11-22-2011 , 12:01 PM

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We judge people all of the time. It's not an inherently negative thing to do. We need to do it to assess our surroundings the people we interact with. Some people overdo it and treat others negatively as a result of those judgements. I think that's the "judgmental" part of a character flaw that people usually refer to.

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You should have thrown a fat, greasy cheeseburger at them. I wonder if they would have ran out of the gym screaming like they just encountered a black widow spider.

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11-22-2011 , 12:29 PM

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Aidan

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You should have thrown a fat, greasy cheeseburger at them. I wonder if they would have ran out of the gym screaming like they just encountered a black widow spider.

Yeah, i dunno. Its probably the closest I have been to interjecting with randos in the gym. I knew a girl who suicided at HS who had a whole bunch of body image problems - it can be a very touchy subject obv. Obviously judging yourself can be as harmful as someone else harshly judging you.

On a lighter note, saw a bodybuilder bro working with his skinnyfat apprentice, doing some sort of assisted RDL into upright row with back hyperextension at the top that made me shake my head.

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11-22-2011 , 02:13 PM

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on the topic of being judged and gym noobs, anyone find any particularly good ways to get extremely overweight people into the gym ? there are a couple friends and relatives i'd love to get started in it, but it's really hard to ever bring up since they're (rightfully) sensitive about the subject matter

i'm guessing dieting at home before hitting the gym is the only real option, since they'll feel more motivated and confident after dropping 10-20 pounds even if they're still really big

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11-22-2011 , 02:50 PM

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Have their doctor scare them into exercise through an early probable death from a heart attack assessment.

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11-22-2011 , 02:51 PM

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I find it's usually a terrible idea to talk to anybody about fitness who's not already into it. Maybe it's just me though.

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11-22-2011 , 03:18 PM

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I find it's usually a terrible idea to talk to anybody about fitness who's not already into it. Maybe it's just me though.

nah i completely agree, but when it's a close relative that is super overweight and nearing 30, you want to do something to for them even if it might backfire.

i wouldnt talk to any of my friends seriously about their weight except in friendly jest, but when it's a relative it feels like there is some sort of responsibility there

as ******ed as the idea might sound, i was thinking about getting nutrisystem or something for them and saying i got a buy one get one free deal. it's crappy but better tha nothing.

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11-22-2011 , 03:36 PM

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I met Daniel Robitaille, the top Canadian national weightlifting coach, the other day. The first two questions he asked me were, "do you lift weights" and, "how much do you clean".

I missed an epic troll opportunity that my brother later mentioned. "Cleans? You mean reverse curls, right?"

Moment forever lost in history.

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11-22-2011 , 06:07 PM

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I wish that when I went to the gym people openly and vocally judged me. Then I'd have better insight into my physical and aesthetic weak points.

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11-23-2011 , 01:16 AM

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I wish that when I went to the gym people openly and vocally judged me. Then I'd have better insight into my physical and aesthetic weak points.

lol no wai.

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11-23-2011 , 07:11 AM

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It's unfortunate but for out of shape people that don't care for the gym, you're better off getting them some gimmick product to at least peak their interest in getting on the right path towards healthy lifestyle etc

And girls in a gym are like girls in a poker room. Creep factor keeps a lot of girls out of poker rooms too. Can't blame them with the looks some girls get

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11-23-2011 , 01:38 PM

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On a lighter note, saw a bodybuilder bro working with his skinnyfat apprentice,

I have heard of.. skinny weak and weak fat... what is skinny-fat?!?

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11-23-2011 , 01:58 PM

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I have heard of.. skinny weak and weak fat... what is skinny-fat?!?

When you have a low BMI (skinny), but have low lean body mass, so you're basically fat and bones with minimal muscle. Basically untrained skinny weak.

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11-23-2011 , 02:20 PM

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i wouldnt talk to any of my friends seriously about their weight except in friendly jest, but when it's a relative it feels like there is some sort of responsibility there

totally off subject, but if they're really your friend...like, a real friend not a drinkin' buddy or ball game pal, etc - you should bring it up if the concern is real. Don't start a conversation with it of course. I wouldn't even know how to bring it up and thats probably where a lot of failure to do it comes from for most.

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11-23-2011 , 03:22 PM

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Yeah, that can be tricky. If they ever make a self-effacing comment or something about their size, you can laugh at it and then turn quickly to serious mode ("So does that bother you? You ever try to lose weight, come to the gym with me sometime, blah blah..."). Some people will never, ever reference their weight, though, and it's hard to get an "in".

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11-23-2011 , 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nuclear500

It would probably be easier and more productive to discuss going to the gym for the health benefits of training rather than going to the gym for weight loss.

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11-23-2011 , 03:53 PM

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Really? I think people would be more concerned with body image than health

I don't know, I could be wrong

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11-23-2011 , 03:56 PM

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It would probably be easier and more productive to discuss going to the gym for the health benefits of training rather than going to the gym for weight loss.

It's hard to word this in a way where most people don't defensively assume you're judging them as being fat, and or out of shape.

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11-23-2011 , 04:30 PM

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well the thing is most of my friends are still in mid 20's, while relatives can be much older. i feel if they don't do anything for themselves in the next few years, when we hit our late 20's and 30's it'll be easier to bring up because i can do the whole "damn we're getting old and our bodies suck...let's start doing <physical activity> together" and build up going to the gym. once people actually hit the gym and do physical activity, it's much easier to change the diet because they accept and embrace it more mentally

on the other hand, the relatives are already older and need more immediate action, but i have no clue where to begin.

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11-23-2011 , 04:32 PM

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Really? I think people would be more concerned with body image than health

I don't know, I could be wrong

Many people are concerned, but very few care to be lectured on the topic. It really takes a lot of tact.

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11-23-2011 , 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbroods

It's hard to word this in a way where most people don't defensively assume you're judging them as being fat, and or out of shape.

True. One would have to use great care here.

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11-23-2011 , 04:54 PM

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on the other hand, the relatives are already older and need more immediate action, but i have no clue where to begin.

Tell them you are going to take them to an all you can eat buffet and surprise them with going to the gym instead.

In all seriousness, there usually isn't much you can do until they make the decision they need to change. If you bring it up first, people will usually get defensive and shy away from further contact. Do it for yourself, get results, and let them bring up how much better you are looking. Gives you a place to start talking about how you went about it and how easy it is to do once you get a routine going.

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11-23-2011 , 05:02 PM

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Yeah, "lead by example" has worked to get a friend of mine started on SS.

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11-23-2011 , 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbroods

It's hard to word this in a way where most people don't defensively assume you're judging them as being fat, and or out of shape.

I guess you could simply talk up the benefits of exercise. If they say, "you're just talking about my weight," perhaps have a copy of Health at Every Size handy (a quick stop at the library) to show that you really are talking only about the health aspects of training.

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