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I saw an interesting squat grip technique yesterday. The guy had the bar on his back, arms spread wide and was grabbing the edge of the plates instead of the bar. Looked like he was doing the "come-at-me-bro-stance" with a barbell on his back.

Legit. Weighted brodowns.

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11-01-2011 , 08:19 AM

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Rip talks about that grip in SS (and how much he hates it).

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11-01-2011 , 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardball47

I asked one of them why they're going sumo instead of conventional. He said conventional stance is bad for you knees. I just kinda said "oh okay" (wasn't even going to start....) and went back to my workout.

Just out of curiousity and because I want to learn: what would you have said if you did start?

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11-01-2011 , 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Naakka

Sometimes that's due to shoulder/pec flexibility or injury. I had to do that for a brief amount of time when recovering for pec surgery (and it was a decent length of time before being able to do even that). Most of the time, though, IMO it's simply someone utilizing bad technique.

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11-01-2011 , 06:03 PM

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Saw the most innovative smith machine squats last friday. So, imagine if someone gripped the smith machine bar with their hands and put their biceps into isometric contraction about halfway through the range of motion of a standard barbell curl. Now, start doing some half squats. That's what I saw. I hope that makes sense in text form, cause it sure as hell didn't make any sense in real life as I watched the poor guy perform them.

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11-01-2011 , 06:08 PM

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So a front squat with your arms perpendicular to your torso? Holy hell, how much weight was he doing?

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11-01-2011 , 06:45 PM

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So like a zercher squat + curl combo.... pretty advanced tactic

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11-01-2011 , 06:47 PM

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KP, the bar wasn't in the crook of his arms, it was in his hands like a curl, while he squatted, so more like what halfslant said. He was a small, skinny-fat guy, had 20 lbs on each side, so ~85 lbs, so definitely clueless.

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11-01-2011 , 06:51 PM

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Smith machine bar doesn't weigh 45lbs, weighs maybe 5-10.

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11-01-2011 , 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndr0m

Just out of curiousity and because I want to learn: what would you have said if you did start?

I would have kept asking questions to either a) how much he knows, and/or b) see how dedicated of a troll he is.

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11-02-2011 , 12:10 AM

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But I mean, how would you have him convinced that doing it the conventional way is the best? I just "know" it because I read it here, but I have no idea why. Obviously the "it causes less injury" wouldn't cut it in a gym discussion, as that would be his statement as well.

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11-02-2011 , 12:22 AM

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Truth is I wouldn't go into a bro-down with him at the gym over what deadlifting style is best. It's not anyone's place to start arguing at the gym over this ****.

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11-02-2011 , 08:06 AM

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Some people lift more using sumo style, especially shorter guys and women seems to favor the sumo style. Their is absolutly nothing wrong with doing sumo DL instead of conventional DL

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11-02-2011 , 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zinna

Some people lift more using sumo style, especially shorter guys and women seems to favor the sumo style. Their is absolutly nothing wrong with doing sumo DL instead of conventional DL

I'm capable of both but prefer sumo.

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11-02-2011 , 02:54 PM

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i pull about 50lbs more sumo than conventional...im a short dude...

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11-02-2011 , 05:52 PM

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How short is short?

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11-02-2011 , 06:11 PM

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im 5'7, and have short legs...

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11-02-2011 , 07:06 PM

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im 5'7, and have short legs...

I'm 5'6, and I have proportional (I think, anyway) legs. I do conventional DLs just fine. Never even tried sumo, tbh.

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11-02-2011 , 07:37 PM

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i hadnt tried sumo either until my conventional stalled...i tried sumo and my lift started going up really fast...

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11-02-2011 , 08:17 PM

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because of all my kettletarding my semi sumo is now better than my conventional and i'm 6 1 with really long legs and average length arms

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11-02-2011 , 09:46 PM

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I'm 5'6 and suck at sumo

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11-02-2011 , 09:51 PM

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i will get a pic of me in that quarter squat rack tomorrow

i'm 71.5" tall fwiw

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11-03-2011 , 12:22 AM

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I think my new gym is going to offer up lots of new notsurifsrs GGOs... These fighters are a whole new kind of wacky.

Today the only other person in the gym was a dude doing rounds of:

- 3x308 deadlifts
- some box jumps
- some band resisted sprint things

I saw him get through 3 rounds. Terrible, terrible, back breaking, hitching form on the deadlifts.

He had a young (todler) daughter called Katana.