Gary stevenson's SS/BBall/Golf log - Page 5

Quick bball question since this is the highest bball log on the page.

I do this reverse layup without using the backboard; is that super bad? It's pretty high percentage with the competition I'm facing, but I feel like I shouldn't be doing it because nobody advocates it. I guess a more accurate description would be driving down baseline and doing a small hook from the other side? The only downside I see is since I have to twist my neck to see the basket I might get slammed into with my head turned and take a mean hit.

Players do that too, but I think maybe it's just less fundamentally sound, maybe a big easier to potentially block (especially in the nba where you have to protect your shot off the backboard). I dno, I used to do that and then tried to reverse layups only off the backboard and now in-game I often spaz out and try to do it not off the backboard and mess it up. So probably just stick with what feels good and is effective,

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01-14-2012 , 01:45 AM

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i'd say it depends on the competition and how well they can recover. if you are getting by them pretty fast and have an open look on the side you're driving too you might as well take that and not give the defender more time to recover if you go to the weak side. taking longer to get to the opposite side also invites the weakside defense to come over to help block/alter your shot

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01-14-2012 , 03:14 PM

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alright just making sure there wasnt something terribly bad about it. i play in a pretty mediocre league with the tallest guys being 6'2-6'3, so wont be up against any monster blockers

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02-26-2012 , 07:00 PM

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Bumping to preserve this thread in case my wrist ever heals and i can lift again...

Been playing bball a fair amount at least and getting in better cardio shape. Also starting to feel good about my shot again so that's a positive

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07-24-2012 , 12:11 AM

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Long rant about injuries and not being able to lift/bball/golf

Spoiler:

Now on to the good(ish) news, my finger is feeling much better, the swelling has gone down (though it's still bent in a slightly different direction than my other hand) and I started playing bball and lifting again. I'm going to take it slow and try not to aggravate anything. Here's what I've done so far-

7/15
Squat- 45x5x2 95x5 135x5x4
OHP- 45x5x2 65x5 75x5

7/20
Squat- 45x5x2 95x5 135x5x4 135x9
Bench- 45x5x2
Wrist didn't feel great when I started benching so I chose to just quit for the day

7/23
Squat- 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 14x5x2 145x9
Bench 45x5x2 65x5 85x5 95x5x2 95x15
Back extensions- bw x10 +10lbs x8

Wrist felt great today, didn't notice any pain while lifting. I iced it immediately when I got home and I'm feeling good about going forward. My pinky hasn't limited me in anyway afaik, my grip seemed a little different from my right hand in the squat but I think it's ok

Last edited by Gary Stevenson; 07-24-2012 at 12:17 AM.

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07-24-2012 , 10:08 AM

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When I hurt my wrist earlier this year playing basketball (it *still* isn't 100% btw, I had no idea a wrist injury could be this nagging, maybe I'm finally old or something) I got wrist wraps and used it just for my injured wrist. This helped a lot for OHP, bench, and squatting. I never needed it for DLing for some reason (probably b/c keeping my wrist straight was fine).

So that's one potential idea. But if your wrist is feeling okay and has the mobility for all your lifts, I'd say just keep on, keeping on.

Btw, congrats getting back into things,

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07-24-2012 , 01:19 PM

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Thanks. DFII suggested I try those too, I was just too lazy and it hurt too much to try them a few months back. Did you wear them on both wrists or just the injured one?

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07-24-2012 , 01:51 PM

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I mainly just wrapped the injured wrist but for heavy work sets on bench did both so it felt more equal. But I'm not sure I needed to.

I did end up developing some sort of imbalance or form hiccup on bench which I'm now trying to fix. But I doubt it had to do with the wraps, probably more to do with banging out tons of slightly crooked reps without taking video while one of my wrists was somewhat injured.

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07-24-2012 , 02:52 PM

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Alternatively, just tape the wrist. Wraps may be more convenient/reusable, but athletic tape is only gonna cost a few bucks a month and will be just as effective.

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07-24-2012 , 04:00 PM

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Just ordered tape and these shoes:

I used my roommate's yesterday in squats and they were really helpful so I decided to get a pair

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07-26-2012 , 11:10 PM

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7/26
Squat- 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 155x5x2 155x10
Deadlift- 155x5 175x5x2 175x5

Wrist and pinky finger both felt ok

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07-27-2012 , 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Funnie II

Alternatively, just tape the wrist. Wraps may be more convenient/reusable, but athletic tape is only gonna cost a few bucks a month and will be just as effective.

Yeah, this seems like better advice.

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07-29-2012 , 07:30 PM

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7/29
Squat- 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 155x3 165x5x2 165x8
OHP- 45x5x2 65x5 75x5 85x5x2 85x8
Cable rows- 60x10 70x10 80x10x3
Chinups- bw x8 x5 x4

Forgot to tape my wrist like an idiot, used it for chinups and it felt very stable so that's promising

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07-30-2012 , 02:37 PM

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7/30
Bench- 45x5x2 65x5 95x5 105x5x2 105x14 125x3

Remembered to tape my wrist today, not sure if i taped it too tightly or if it was too high/close to the hand but it was cutting off circulation a little bit. No pain tho, so that's great

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07-30-2012 , 02:38 PM

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07-30-2012 , 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian

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07-30-2012 , 11:11 PM

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Fwiw I could have definitely gone for more with the 125x3, I just wanted to test the wrist with a little more weight and it seemed fine

Last edited by Gary Stevenson; 07-30-2012 at 11:12 PM. Reason: meant to add that in the first post

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08-03-2012 , 08:05 PM

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8/3
Squat 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 160x3 175x5x2 175x8
Deadlift 155x5 185x3 205x5
Pullups bw x5 x4 x5
Cable Rows 70x10 80x10x3

Everything felt good today, though my pinky was in a little pain while gripping DLs. Going on vacation tomorrow for about a week so I won't be lifting again til ~next weekend

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08-30-2012 , 10:53 PM

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8/30
Squat 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 155x5x2 155x10
OHP 45x5x2 65x5 75x5x2 75x10

My gym closes for a few weeks in August every year so I haven't been able to do any lifting since getting back from vacation. Decided to take it easy today and everything felt great. In the time off from lifting I did some random **** in our "home gym", just ab stuff, chin/pullups and pushups. I also started running to try to build up some cardio endurance which should help in basketball and possibly lifting too. I've been running anywhere between 1.4-3.6 miles around the neighborhood, I kept a few rough times for some of the runs:

3.2m- 36:59 this was my first run, had to take a couple walking breaks because I hadn't done any running (besides basketball) in years
3.2m- 26:40 lol 10 minute difference
1.4m- 10:36

I'm not sure if I'll keep up the running now that I can lift again and I'll be playing bball a couple times/week, we'll see how I feel

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08-30-2012 , 11:02 PM

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You get the shoes yet?

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08-30-2012 , 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Funnie II

You get the shoes yet?

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Just ordered tape and these shoes:

I used my roommate's yesterday in squats and they were really helpful so I decided to get a pair

Yea got them a while back, only got to use them once or twice before the gym closed though. They feel great so far

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09-01-2012 , 01:11 PM

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9/1
Squat 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 155x5 175x5x2 175x8
Bench 45x5x2 95x5 105x5 115x5x5 115x12
Deadlift 155x5 185x5 209x5

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09-05-2012 , 01:03 AM

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9/4
Squat 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 165x5 185x5x2 185x7
OHP 45x5x2 65x5 75x5 80x5x2 80x11
Cable rows 70x10 80x10x3
Curls 40x10x3

Squat and OHP were both fine, the 175-185 jump was a little big so I might cut down to 5lb jumps next time.

So I'm sort of going with the GSLP now and doing two sets of 5 plus as many as I can on the last set of my worksets, should I drop squatting down to every other lift like this program specifies? My schedule is fairly flexible and I can get in 3-4 lifts/week, though I'd like to keep it to 3 for now til I'm 100% with my wrist/finger injuries. Also for curls, better to use the curl bar or dbs?

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09-05-2012 , 01:03 AM

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DF also suggested i start another program called Greyskull LP-

Monday
Bench/ or Press (A/B) 2x 5, 1 x 5+
Curl 2x 10-15 (bench days)
Squat 2x 5, 1x 5+
Neck Harness

Wednesday
Bench/ or Press 2x5, 1x 5+
Weighted Chins 2 x 6-8 (press days, and only if you can do at least 6-8 BW chins)
Deadlift 1x 5+ (with or without power cleans as warmups)
Neck Harness

Friday
Bench/ or Press (A/B) 2x 5, 1 x 5+
Curl 2x 10-15 (bench days)
Squat 2x 5, 1x 5+
Neck Harness

Bodyweight Chins are done every day.
5 lb jumps on Squat and Deadlift
2.5lb jumps on pressing movements and curls (when rep ranges are satisfied)
When reps on last set fall below 5, take 10% off of bar and begin process over (on that lift only)

i'll probably start this next lift. i think i'll do everything besides the neck harness

This is the GSLP I was planning to start a while back for reference

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09-05-2012 , 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Stevenson

9/4
Squat 45x5x2 95x5 135x5 165x5 185x5x2 185x7

Squat and OHP were both fine, the 175-185 jump was a little big so I might cut down to 5lb jumps next time.

Theres no need to rush your progression, so if you'd rather take it safe with a 5lb jump then thats obviously fine. However, imo if you can get 7 reps on your last set(and maybe more since I"m assuming you didn't fail) then you can probably do a 10lb jump and still get 3x5.

I'm assuming that, coming back from injury, you used to have significantly higher squat numbers? I'm kinda in the same boat(used to be able to squat much more, started getting back into it recently) and I've found that when rebuilding strength that I previously had, I like going with 5x5. Its obviously a lot of overall workload, but it allows you to get in a lot of reps(important for getting your form back) before the weight starts to get really heavy again. Psychologically it'll help you when the weight gets heavy because then you can drop down to 3x5 and 3 sets just seems so much easier than 5.

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