Why are you calling me a troll?

5'9 140-145? Nah, I'd say more like 105-110.[/QUOTE]

105-110 is dangerously underweight. This is bad advice.

if you're not trolling then...

Yeah these trolls are ridiculous. OP was eating 6000 a day before and now he is only going to eat 25% of that?? WTF, how is that sustainable?? I think I may be the healthiest, strictest eating dude of all HF (and that includes that fatty Assani) and I think eating 1500 a day is crazy. I mean crazy especially if you were eating 5000+ before.

And then this starazz guy has to be trolling. We need some pics or gtfo. These fatty logs are hilarious because less fatties come in giving their advice. So the 30% bodyfat dudes come to the rescue of the 50% bodyfat dudes. It all adds up to lots of comedy.

Sorry for the derail OP. You doing good bro. I prefer if you ate more but if you hardcore, go for it bro. I just don't think you hardcore enough, not many people are.

!!!!!!!!!!!! can't stress this one enough.

I think eating less than 2000 calories for a person on a new huge diet is sustainable for a month or two or three until real life stress starts taking a toll. Then it becomes harder and the mental failure leads to a lot of diets failing.

If the person is logging and willing to identify that psychologically or just life routines require eating slightly more and ups to 2500 calories a few months into it, then that would be great. Same reason why so many people make SS logs, get up to 1.5x squats then we stop hearing from them. People get used to swift progress, start stalling or progress slower than theyd like, and are ashamed to admit it and quit.

tldr; Eating as little as you can right now as fine, just recognize your body and mental needs to eat more when it happens.

5'9 140-145? Nah, I'd say more like 105-110.[/QUOTE]

It's awesome when people post sources like this.

It's awesome when people post sources like this.[/QUOTE]

When who posts sources like what? And why do you think it's awesome?

Just ordered The Body Fat Solution, hopefully it arrives soon. Will set goals and a date to reach them once it arrives.

Absolutely I have social anxiety. Show me a fat person who seems totally comfortable in public and ill show you a complete facade. Even though I have a reasonable social life and a good amount of friends, I'm almost always uncomfortable in public places and with new people.

I see my GP once a month, primarily because I have severe-ish asthma and she wants to keep an eye on it. Luckily it doesnt usually get in the way of exercising as long as I take a reliever before starting. Really hoping one of the benefits of doing this change is being able to stop taking daily steroids. However she isn't aware of exactly what I'm eating. I've been tossing up whether or not to see a dietician, perhaps I'll do that.

People seem to be suggesting to eat more purely for sustainability reasons. I get that most people who undertake radical dietary changes give up soon after because as a result of their new diet, they're constantly hungry. However I'm never hungry. Its not even an issue of will power for me, I just don't want more food. I also don't believe I'm eating a ridiculously low amount of calories.

My life is pretty ****ing lax. Especially now with uni almost being done for the year and having potentially the easiest job ever. No doubt this'll be a huge factor in being able to keep the changes going. I also live with someone really supportive and they've completely stopped bringing any bad foods into the house.

28/10 food:



Forgot to mention I take fish oil caps every day as well as a multivitamin. I know a lot of people shun vitamins but due to lack of veg/fruit I imagine I'm missing out on a lot of required nutrients so just filling gaps.

Did the standard 45 minutes on Elliptical burning 712 cals. Attempted man pushups and failed miserably, not discouraged though - will keep trying every day.

RE: 1200

Listen to your body. I regularly do 6-10 week periods where I eat 1200 a day. If you can do it and your body is ok with it then do it. Everybody is different and if it works for you then it works. It does take a lot of willpower sometimes though to maintain that intake for a long time and usually a drastic change in what you eat.

I would set the date now. You set the bar and you jump over it. If you set it at 2 weeks from now and the book has not arrived in a week you need to go out to a store and buy it or buy a digital copy to reach the goal on time. I have to audio book. This seems silly but it is learning how to set a goal and reach it. If that book arrives the day before you goal date you stay up all night and read it.

In all goals we set there are parts we can't control. If the book gets lost in shipping or something you need to be aware something beyond your control is hindering your goal and change your plan to reach your goal on or before the deadline. Goal setting is about learning how to plan and setting the goal normally takes care of all the other steps, you will just do it once you set the goal. If it is a goal you truly want to achieve that is, me forcing you to read a book is not the greatest example.

Now social anxiety is tricky and I an as far from an expert on it as you can get. Is it caused by you being overweight or are you overweight due to social anxiety? Several people have poked at the idea of finding out how you got fat and what has triggered this current change in eating habits. Do you even know? Questions like this are also going to seem silly but if you discover the true source of the problem it will become much more likely you can overcome it.

I would like to see the mfp days of how you ate before the diet. Is it possible you ate even more before you tracked those days? I would say yes. What made you eat so much at that time. Tracking food is great because people never track really bad amounts or types of food. Once they decide to track they just don't eat those amounts or types of food. Similar to social anxiety the cause and effect is a chicken and egg type of thing and very hard to figure out.

So I said a lot and it is getting unclear so let focus on the most important stuff.

What do you think are the reasons you overate in the past? Need a detailed answer to this. Are there types of foods that trigger you to binge? I am assuming you are a binge eater. True? Did you use food to alter your mood? What are the situations you eat the most in? Do you overeat in public or is it always in private? How bad is the social anxiety and is it causing you to overeat or is it a result of overeating? There are an unlimited number of questions I could ask so it is impossible. You need to think honestly about it and try to give the true answer to this one and it will be hard to figure out but try your best.

When who posts sources like what? And why do you think it's awesome?[/QUOTE]

Haaaaaaaaaave you met sarcasm?

So much bad advice and trolling going on.

Teeth, you need to eat more. 1400 calories is not healthy for a man your size. No matter what anyone tells you.

Haaaaaaaaaave you met sarcasm?[/QUOTE]

OK so you were being sarcastic. Did you have a problem with the body mass index guidelines of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention? What guidelines do you think are superior and why? I don't take kindly to being called a troll (by others, not you of course) after having given a thoughtful post to the OP and corrected someone's horrible advice to shoot for what is essentially still an obese level of weight as a laudable goal (200 pounds).

I was referring to the 110# recommendation that I quoted.

140 is a laughable number. 140 isn't just a normal BMI, it's pretty close to the low end of normal for a 5'9 guy. Considering OP has been carrying around 350 pounds for most of his life, he almost assuredly has a significant amount of lean mass just from carrying around that much weight all day long. To get to 140, OP would probably have to drop significant amounts of lean mass and get down to a ridiculously low BF%, for no real reason.

Yeah, 110# is underweight for 5-9.

125 is a normal weight for a 5-9 guy according to federal government guidelines. 125 is toward the low end, not 140.

Much of this unsourced pushback against sourced guidelines is just internal resistance to how overweight some of these folks who are pushing back are. I wouldn't be surprised if every one of these folks pushing back against the guidelines I'm quoting are over 200# or more and don't want to face their own reality that their goal weight is even lower than they would like it to be. So it's better to deny than to feel even more discouraged. But if you just face facts, you can deal in reality and in facts and adjust your goals accordingly. Deal with life on life's terms; don't deny guidelines composed by dietary and medical experts.

And 170 is also considered normal, so yes, 140 is closer to the low end of normal than the high end. Plus there's the whole lol BMI thing for people who actually have some muscle mass on them, which OP almost assuredly will from his years spent lugging around 350 pounds.

At least be accurate as you make excuses to stop short of the proper goals. 170 is considered overweight for a person 5-9--not normal.

lol i'd be pretty skinny at 5'9" 160

Fine, <169 pounds is considered normal, you caught me

b+ troll, had me going until you said 120 lbs 5'9 is a normal weight, well maybe in ethiopia it is, but not here. pack up your gov't statistics and run along now.