A bit longer list this time:

July:
24-82.0kg
25-82.9
26-82.5
27-82.5
28-82.7
29-81.8
30-82.4
31-82.1

August:
1-82.1kg
2-82.4
3-82.4
4-81.7
5-81.9
6-81.4
7-81.5
8-81.7
9-82.3
10-81.9
11-82.5
12-82.7
13-81.6
14-81.7
15-81.7
16-81.7
17-81.4

Will not mind if going towards 80kg flat. Waist is 96 centimeters now = 38". With a bit luck could come down to 94cm. Then think this project really is on maintain

For the record, made my waistlines in a bit concentrated form:

So after almost a three week break from the gym(s) during vacation I have a full week of workout now. Found there already was a break from the routine, even had to push myself a bit at times. Not much to do about that in the future, will most probably not try to find new gyms when traveling.

My old companion Flu joined me again. So no gym today. Thought about providing statistics again about how many percent of the days I'm working out. Think I will not, it should end up around say 85%, give or take. Could log that percentage on New Year's Eve . Simply put I find myself in one of my two gyms every day possible, always about one hour.

In addition I have activated myself a bit physically also in other ways, but the gym sessions form the core.

I agree that invisible muscles are much more preferable. Nothing is better than surprising random passersby when they see you lift a nearly full bottle of water all by yourself with what appear to be spindly arms.

Fwiw, it is highly unlikely that you will accidentally become extremely or even moderately muscular.

I've apparently lost some weight. 209 weigh-in tonight after a few beers and a dozen wings while wearing a lot more than I usually do when I weigh myself. I also kind of have to poop. I suspect this has been due to an increase in my activity levels. I spent a few days dog sitting* for some dear friends and otherwise developing my disdain for people.

*in case this doesn't translate well, it is like baby sitting, except for with dogs. Since dogs wiggle around more vigorously than babies when you sit on them, it burns more calories.

GL!

206

Thinking a bit about how much my max rippedness will be without specifically trying?

These months have kind of transformed my body, who would think that about an, as they say, old man? Maybe I realistically have come halfway, initial change is the greatest and fastest.

Mr Flu left, time to meet Hr Gym tomorrow! Let's see how long a stretch it becomes this time around. Please Sir Lazy, excuse yourself.

Decided to log this even if it's a detail. Yes I work out one hour each day. How close to one hour? Got fed up with looking at the clock and having to remember on the minute. "Started 4.32 o'clock, will stop at 5.32". It's easier to remember and see whole five minutes, so first though I'll take the nearest five minutes, but now think it will be next whole five minutes, so my sessions will be between one hour and one hour four minutes! For example: not 4.32-5.30, but 4.32-5.35. You've got to mentally push it, not getting on the slipping slope to passivity

With this worked out I can concentrate on more essential things. But life is full of small decisions...

202 this morning

August:
18-82.1kg
19-82.4
20-82.2
21-82.0
22-82.0
23-82.5
24-82.9
25-82.7
26-82.1 (old scale, final time: 81.5kg)

I have now literally put my old mechanical scale in a plastic bag at the front door, in a few hours carrying it out to the metal recycling, for it to blend in with new products. I have a "survival streak", so thought about saving it for possible bad times. But will use a tape measure in that case, waist is now back to 97cm.

The main reason I kept the old scale was for backup, checking possible weird readings on my new scale, but haven't used it, just believing in and marking the readings. And the backup can be at the gym: was 82.0kg there last weekend with full gym clothing, too little I think, but usually the same scale is consistent. One of the shortcomings of the old scale was you had to have really good light to see the readings, where were those lines aligned? And when you bended forward to see better the reading could change because you stood differently. But thanks anyway, old scale, and a good after! You were "the it" for my initial two months, not to forget the other attempts to follow the weight during the years.

Anyhow I have a gut feeling (of course no pun intended) I'll take this slowly to 80kg=176lbs now. Starting a bit above 88kg (which my new scale would have showed) I could then say: took it from around 88 to 80. Hand on the heart: 82.5kg as a final goal weight is a bit weird. With 80kg my BMI would be 22(.2), maybe dare to say kind of ideal.

Maybe because the type of clothing I'm wearing somebody said I could as well weigh 10kg more without anybody noticing it, but will have to go with the occasional glances in the mirror when half naked

So, on my journey towards 80kg flat. Even if not putting any time limit things may start happening. Say I eat one salad less per day, then there's about 350cal less. This may lead to two smoothies more, so then there will be a 100cal and then some less per day in total. May even start logging the calorie amount, just could read the packages, but may go with the slight hunger.

What does a day of eating look like now that you're considering dropping a salad to lose weight?

Three VLCD smoothies in the morning, say 350 cal. Lunch a bit varying, but often salads, so let's say 350 cal there also. A chocolate bar during weekdays before gym, about 200 cal. A salad, 350 cal when getting home, and two smoothies, a bit under 250 cal. Now we have 1500 cal. If I now eat two salads more I get 2200 cal in total, if dropping one it's 1850, if adding two smoothies to that it's a bit under 2100 cal, and guess I should lose some weight.

Found my chocolate bars are more like 250cal than 200, so just had half of it. And a couple of pieces of cake as lunch(!)

May be in for a faster drop after all, my stomach has funny sounds.

I think you have some serious mental problems with food that you need to work through. Your almost 200 posts into a log where, as far as I can tell, you've only consumed meal replacement drinks, salads, and candy. Your consistency and progress in doing what you've set out to do is admirable, but I don't think you're heading toward a good place. You need to transition into a more flexible diet, instead of this all or nothing approach.

This is how it will be. Good and healthy, candy will not be for calories, except before the gym, because it's easy. I eat candy now and then, then something else, like cake today, I'm not an absolutist vs. food. Is not VLCD smoothies + salads healthy? Probably all could eat like me. Basically culture feeds **** to people. Only salads will make me keep my calories intake low enough. That and the VLCD smoothies guarantee for example protein and everything the body needs. Try it. No hunger and failing (let's believe that)

Look at the success in the primary goals: dropping weight to the desired and keeping it + eating healthy. What's more, it's good tasting and balanced. There are different kinds of meat, cheese, vegetables, egg and so on in the salads, very differing.

Wait until I reach 80kg, then it will be for life. Had no problem to stop at 82.5kg and keeping it. I agree people need to be a bit careful, me included.

When I had the flu I ate pizza and kebab, when driving home from vacation ate all kinds of sugar content, but the basis will I think remain what works for keeping the weight at the desired comfortably. At least for a couple of years.

Basically my relation to food is I'm lazy, trying to find the easiest way that works.

The method of determining whether someone has any mental problems with anything is to check whether they are happy or not.

He seems happy, so there are no mental problems.

Whether he seems odd to you is completely unimportant.

I don't doubt that loads of extremist cult members have been happy, and I am sure there are plenty of high functioning people with eating disorders. That doesn't mean those people don't have problems.

Meal replacement drinks are meant to be a convenience, a supplement to an otherwise balanced diet, or a tool for athletes to make fast changes to their body composition in order to make a weigh-in. They're not the backbone of a long term dietary strategy.


No, I don't think that vlcd smoothies + salads is healthy. Maybe it contains all the nutrients your body needs, but that doesn't make it healthy. It is not healthy to punish yourself needlessly, when there are less-extreme diets that allow you to eat normal food and function as a normal human being in society which will have the same results in the long run. And maybe you wouldn't have regular urges to pound 1000 kcal of candy with a less-extreme approach.

Anyway it's your thread. Good luck with your continued results and keeping the weight off.

There aren't (if we are considering happiness to be a part of high functioning). We could also check to see if he is meeting all the requirements of daily living. It seems that he is.

Sex is meant to be for procreation. Mayonnaise is meant to be for potato salads. Coffee is meant to be for business meetings.

Since he is eating loads of salads, he is eating healthier than most everyone. Which food items do you believe he is missing out on? Not enough on the sandwich front? Inadequate daily supply of barbecue sauce? Too little time spent making smoothies? Insufficient monetary support of the General Mills cereal plant?

(I do think it is odd that he doesn't like cooking, but that doesn't rise anywhere near the level of being problematic. It is simply a quirk.)

I'm not that happy . My eating strategy is probably second to my workout strategy, which is more focused on happiness or at least good functioning up the ages. But my eating now is miles more healthy than before: then too little hydration, almost no vegetables, too much salt, all "compensated" by a multivitamin pill a day.

Thanks for the encouragement

Salad can be super varied anyway. So many different options with salad. I'm looking forward to warmer weather so I can up my salad consumption.

Renton's kind intentions were not at question. I just have a thing about people questioning the sanity of a (somewhat) normal person.

Anyway, I need salad recommendations. I do like potato salad and egg salad a lot, but those barely qualify and aren't on the menu for a boy who needs to lose some of his weight.