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05-28-2011 , 01:58 AM
It may not be too hard. I'd check the instructions for the level of difficulty.

If it is disassemblable, I suspect the limiting factor may be having the proper tools for the job.
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05-28-2011 , 09:47 AM
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Thanks. I figured that was the correct answer, but was hoping for another way.

edit - I have a moderate amount of experience with assembling & figuring out things like this, but I'm far from a pro. My wife knows quite a few mechanical engineers. Do you think I should have one of them help me with this once I get those instructions?
not unless you just want them to draw it in CAD for you
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05-28-2011 , 10:02 AM
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I have a moderate amount of experience with assembling & figuring out things like this, but I'm far from a pro. My wife knows quite a few mechanical engineers. Do you think I should have one of them help me with this once I get those instructions?
No. Go to your mechanic.
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05-28-2011 , 02:30 PM
Thanks for the comments. I emailed West Side. Hopefully they have an easy answer.

I've considered the possibility that it might not come apart. I can hire a carpenter to take out a basement window. Then I'd need about four guys to get it through the window. Then I'd have the carpenter reinstall the window.

It'd be a whole lot easier if the machine comes apart without breaking.
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05-28-2011 , 02:32 PM
measure twice, buy once imo
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05-28-2011 , 02:34 PM
lol yeah.

I've also considered leaving it in the garage and setting up enough space to use it there. This would be a last resort for several reasons, but it would work.
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05-28-2011 , 04:42 PM
If the instructions show a process that could damage the bearings or otherwise cause harm to the RH if done incorrectly, you may wish to contact Westside for a referral for a person to help. If that doesn't work, I'd call a local gym and get connected with someone who maintains gym equipment on a regular basis.
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05-28-2011 , 08:02 PM
After looking at it myself I think there definitely will be a good way to get it into the basement. But there is good reason to check with them first regarding the ball bearing part - you definitely want to be able to put that back together.

The window idea isn't bad, but I think unless you know someone who can take the window out easy and put it back in, that might cost more (2 trips from a carpenter) than 1 trip from an equipment manager type person who is confident they can put the ball bearing part back fine.

Imo I think there is a v solid chance we could have just moved it today and figured out how to put the ball bearing part back together. But I am obv not close to an expert and there is a real chance doing this an incorrect way will F everything up, so it's def not worth it.

Btw though, that reverse hyper is a BEAST. Just a ridiculous piece of equipment. I can see why they used two superlatives to name it.
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06-02-2011 , 03:22 PM
My hip tightened up Monday to the point that I cant stand up straight or walk upright - I need crutches to get around.

Tuesday my chiro worked over everything in my hip & low back. Everything except for one muscle felt great. He tested all kinds of things and said its unlikely to be a disc problem, but he hasnt ruled it out. He mentioned I might want to get steroids & an MRI.

The adductor is not good. Its frozen up tighter than I have ever felt a muscle get prior to this.

I've been doing a stretch my chiro gave me ~once an hour, taking muscle relaxers and using the DMS on it. None of it was helping.

I went to the ER today. The doc there agreed with what my chiro suggested regarding the steroids & MRI. He prescribed prednizone, muscle relaxers and percoset He said my insurance probably wouldnt want to pay for an ER MRI (too expensive) and suggested I go to a regular MRI clinic. My chiro ordered an MRI for me at a local clinic, so I'll be getting one soon. Hopefully the prednizone does the trick & the MRI is negative.

I'm only making this post right now because the percoset is allowing me to sit here and I'm too loopy to get any serious work done right now.


Oh yeah, West Side says I can take that allen screw thingy off and the ball bearing assembly wont fall apart. Once I heal up, getting that thing downstairs should be easy.
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06-02-2011 , 03:28 PM
@#%@#

Was it coming along fine then just felt super, super tight on Monday? Or was it gradually getting tighter?

I obv have no ideas to add to this but it sounds like you're in good hands.

The one thing I can potentially help with is the reverse hyper, so when you're back to the point where you're ready to tackle that project, just lemme know .
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06-02-2011 , 03:40 PM
yeah

Friday I stopped taking Advil. Sat am the hip was stiff, but loosened up. Sun am it waas stiff again, but loosened up. Mon it was stiff again, but when I tried to get loose, something happened and the adductor spasmed.

and thanks
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06-02-2011 , 03:50 PM
Well, good timing for the reverse hyper but I am sure you wish your intro to having it was under different circumstances.

I hope you heal quickly.
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06-02-2011 , 03:54 PM
Cha,

That sucks man. Hopefully it's not a disc. MRI negative one time plz.
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06-02-2011 , 04:26 PM
Thanks guys. MRI tomorrow morning, chiro & MRI results at noon.
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06-02-2011 , 07:44 PM
Best of luck man, sounds sucky.
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06-02-2011 , 10:03 PM
Sorry to hear that Cha. Good luck!
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06-02-2011 , 11:50 PM


ditto re: what everyone else has been saying...
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06-03-2011 , 06:18 PM
Thanks for the well wishes.

Bad news - its a herniated disc. It happened when I was stretching/rolling my hammie, just like in the vid I posted in this thread. When I was doing this, I was overdoing the stretch, which put too much pressure on the disc.

This was the straw that broke the camel's back. About a year and a half ago when I was having low back issues, my chiro told me I had a disc issue that seemed like the disc was degenerating (today's MRI confirmed this degeneration). This was probably due to years of sitting with poor posture - my low back rounded. After basically fixing that by doing lots of heavy back stuff with good form, I made one bad lift a couple weeks ago. That lift might have made me more vulnerable to what happened this past Monday, when I overstretched the hammie and popped the disc.

Hopefully this will help make others aware of what to avoid - bad posture, bad form on any lift, and overextending the lumbar spine when stretching.

My chiro says it will be at least 3 weeks before I should exercise, and I should start with very light stuff. He says the reverse hyper will be good at some point, and when I start doing those I should start by doing static holds.

In my communications with West Side about my RH, I mentioned I had a sore hip. Louie Simmons emailed me with a few tips, but at that point he didnt know I blew out a disc. I asked his opinion about the RH static holds my chiro suggested. It will be cool if I can get some good tips from Louie.


If you guys who sent me pms the past couple days are reading this, I'll get to answering those when I'm feeling better and can spend more time on the computer.

Last edited by cha59; 06-03-2011 at 06:24 PM.
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06-03-2011 , 07:27 PM
Uggh, that sucks. Hope it heals up okay.
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06-03-2011 , 08:42 PM


*hugs*

Lemme know if I can help in any way obv.

From what I know (very little) herniated discs often are big setbacks, but heal with time often, right? I guess my hope is that by following a good routine of "doing nothing" you can reset everything in a few months and still be in a good place overall.
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06-04-2011 , 12:59 AM
I wish you well Cha. I had surgery to fix a herniated disk a few years back so I can empathize. Good luck!

Reverse hypers are actually helpful here. Louie Simmons mentioned that he he invented it for just that:

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http://www.wannabebig.com/training/p...louie-simmons/

Q: Louie, I am a coach and have several athletes at the high school level who have herniated disks as a result of poor coaching in the weight room. They haven’t squatted or pulled in a very long time and I want to be able to rehab them to the point where they can. What is the best way to accomplish this?

Louie Simmons: If you have access to a Reverse Hyper™, get them on it. If not, get one. This is not an advertorial for my own product; I truly feel it is THE key to back injury prehab/rehab. I invented it after having broken my own back. In fact, I have broken my back twice and rehabbed myself to the point of being able to set a record squat of over 900 lbs in my 50s!

The beauty of the apparatus is it provides traction while strengthening the back. Discs will not heal without traction, and strengthening the musculature is all-important to regaining one’s lower back health.

Have them swing their legs forward such that they can see them prior to beginning the extension (this optimizes the traction). Have them avoid over-extension at the peak of the movement.

Use the Reverse Hyper™ on both DE and ME days. Slowly return to squatting with box squats using foam on the box to reduce the impact. Use chains prior to bands, and wait to use bands until core strength has returned to a significant degree. Slow and consistent is the key.
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06-04-2011 , 02:57 PM
very cool - thanks!

This really sucks right now. When I was at the chiro yesterday on the table turned kind of sideways attempting to lie face down, I inhaled something like a cottonwood tree seed or something. It caused me to cough bad while I was in a bad position and the aggravated the problem. I didnt realize how bad it was til later, but now it seems like that set me back several days at least. fwiw, I cant lay face down because I cant straighten my right leg at the hip.

I need to keep my torso stiff as possible for a few weeks. I'm trying to hire a temporary trainee to help me work because I wont be able to function well enough to do my job for a while. I have a guy in mind. Hopefully this works out.
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06-04-2011 , 03:28 PM
Gah, sounds really ****ty. Best of luck with the rehab process.
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06-04-2011 , 04:54 PM
Hope you recover quickly man.
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06-04-2011 , 07:48 PM
New goal: rehab. You've done it before & will again. Just makes you appreciate the next PR a bit more.
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