Ahhh okay I didn't realize you were going to pure olytard route.

As far as taxing-ness, just try to do 10 push jerks vs 10 split jerks at the same weight. Even if your split 1rm is higher, the 10 push jerks feel way easier. If you're doing more than 1 rep, the jerk recovery starts to add up.

Why do some competitive lifters push then?

Yeah, I kind of got that, but it would be like clicking on one of those and finding out that it said eat at a 500 kcal/day deficit for 6 months.

In any case, glad that it worked. Hopefully you keep running hot and someone will give you one weird trick to fix your shoulder.

Knee injuries, sometimes it's just naturally easier for them even if they practice only splitting/both, split takes more coordination, some people have better stability front to back than left to right, etc.

I found it was way easier to lock out with bar behind head pushing than splitting.

So a push jerk is like a push press but you bend your knees and duck under the bar? If done correctly can you do a lot more weight with push jerk vs push press?

Thanks! Yeah, I'm about to post my squat vid from today and you'll see how bad my shoulder stuff is. Yes, in a squat vid....you'll see... :|

Yeah makes sense. I feel like I would lockout better in push vs split as well. Time will tell. I've never really done either correctly so I'll defer to others until I know anything

yeah exactly. and yes, lots more.

Here's the 2012 gold medalist in the 105:



Looks f'ing effortless.

6/28:

feeling really good about squats these days. Legs not even DOMSy from the other day's triple session, so I wanted to get in some quints. I've been doing 315x5x3 recently but decided I'd jump to 325 today since I'm feeling so strong.

HBBS:
325x5x3

Vids:

Set 1:


Close grip, as I normally do. Notice how I twist my torso as the set progresses. I think the fact that my right shoulder is so tight that I end up with an uneven bar positioning, which causes my entire torso to twist. Which causes my legs to be unbalanced. I definitely felt this soreness in my left glute. As if I was using it a lot more than my right glute. It all makes sense now. It's all connected. I really really really need to even out my shoulders asap.

Set 2:

No video but I took a wider grip and it helped. Reps felt better

Set 3:


I took an even wider grip this time. Hands about 5" farther out each than my usual grip.

I think these reps look a lot better as well. Less twisting of my torso. Less glute imbalance as well

Conclusion:
Continue using a wider grip during squats and work on my shoulder even more. Am I crazy to think my shoulder is impeding my squats though? Maybe...but it makes sense to me

I have no idea how to fix your shoulder issue, but I definitely think that it can affect your squats. I had a couple of months where I had this weird arm/shoulder pain every time I would get in the rack position (very different from what you have). Even just the empty bar was uncomfortable, but with weight it was worse. I just tried to power through for a while, but it resulted in me favoring one side, which threw off my whole squat. Eventually I took some time off and it got better and the squat did too.

Coincidentally, one of the things that really helped me was a slightly wider grip (but now I've gone back to the narrower grip without probs), but my problem was quite different from what you have.

Looks like S&F's #2 sweetest high bar to me. Downtown cringes from the graveyard.

jelly. Has close to nil buttwink. Bar path looks solid. Knees travel appropriately for high bar. Not good morny this time. Depth solid.

The fbird has a stranglehold on #1 though IMO. Two inch femurs too much advantage, let's see him run hills though.

[x] came

This one weird trick to fix your squats...

thanks! I feel like if I can fix this shoulder thing it'll even out my legs as well (it feels like I'm using my left more than my right still) and my squats should continue to improve. Even >>>> uneven after all

BTM,

I wanna see you do 4-6 weeks of UD 2.0 by the book. Given your x-fit background you should be able to do it without dying unlike the 5 rep squad of S&F. I want to see those abs in all their glory, not hidden behind even a hint of pudge. Make it happen. Results will be awesome.

Coincidentally I was watching this video yesterday, so there is definitely a link between shoulder(/flexibility) and squat form.

http://youtu.be/qyl19JH3BKk

Given that you went wider with your grip and it helped I thought maybe this could have been your issue (what they show in the vid), but I can't see your arm angle really changing much.

I have seen UD2.0 mentioned before itf but I don't know what it is. I guess it's a lot of volume??

syn: what was funny about watching that vid was I was like "oh I'm definitely just like the first dude" and then I watched my squat vid and I was like "nope, definitely the 2nd dude." Weird to be so off base.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20/

That you have been around this forum for 2+ years and didn't pick this up by osmosis is mystifying to me.

Has anyone actually successfully completed it though?

He can be the first!

I did 4 weeks of UD2 somewhere in 2013 and was not incredibly pleased with results considering how much effort you need to put in. But I don't have that much experience with cutting. Saw seemed to be impressed.

Not applicable to natties. Ain't anyone around here have enough LBM for it. Maybe SAW but he is 210 at the moment so nowhere near the recommended 12-15% bodyfat level.

BTM would probably be 6'3" 183 after he is done and look like the bastard son of the machinist and Kate moss.

Syn,
ehhh that's a pretty big improvement if you ask me. Why weren't you pleased? That's 4 weeks of effort.

You got rid of a lot of ab fat. Are you insanely ripped? No, but you're not at a low enough BF to be. And honestly maintaing a BF that's much lower than that as a natty is likely not worth it.

loco,
so basically what you're saying is that no natties should aim for a low BF %. Seems weird. BTM is cottage cheesy enough that he would be nowhere near machinist.jpg after 4-6 weeks.

UD 2.0 cliffs for BTM:
- Calorie/carb cycling magic underpinned by SCIENCE
- Carb depletion workouts on Mon/Tue with a metric ton of reps (~500 total each day). Cool side benefit: significant O2 max increase if you're not already well-trained.
- Requires fairly single-minded dedication and not a lot of social events going on besides the weekends

Soulman -
Yeah basically. I mean if you like the fight club look, then yeah go for it.

But been there done that. I think my face looks better and I think I am healthier at 152, but I look like Waldo with clothes on and erryone wondering where the fack I am hiding.

Also the waist gets pretty tiny. And sometimes you look at yourself and think about doggystyling yourself. Kinda gross. I rather be 14-16% (which in my definition is pretty lean and BTM already there).

But I don't know man, maybe I change my mind later. I just wish I could be a bit heavier at 10-13%, and not 152lbs.

I mean, the fight club look at the tail end of an UD 2.0 stint that actually gets you to a low BF won't last for long. Either way, I still think it's a good thing to diet down low then do a slooow bulk if you're aesthetically focused. What "low" means will vary from person to person. I certainly have no intention of being sub-10% because machinist.jpg, useless from an attraction standpoint, incompatible with a social lifestyle etc. loco approved 14-16% is solid.

Now that the gays can marry I'm sure the slippery slope slide down to doggying yourself will be short. RIP the moral fabric of Murica.

I had a 2nd interview at a friend's company which went really well for the most part but then there was an excel test which I crushed at the start and then couldn't figure out the 2nd part. Drove me nuts. Probably won't get the job bc of that. We went out for bbq afterwards and then stopped at the grocery store and got this:



Literally ate the whole thing. All 1080 calories (20g protein!!!1). Is that on UD2.0? If so, I'm in.

btw, solid 35/37 would eat again.

Caramel core, that's a a surprisingly accurate name

And you keep wondering where those caramel love handles come from. it's not genetica bro. It's ben & jerries. Feel bad. k