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Originally Posted by NotThremp
Then again endurance athletes make the candy consumption of legit big fats (RIP YTF, sorry MLY not fat enough) seem paltry. I imagine gummis would make a substantial amount of this consumption. But I suppose it is personal preference. Prob not much hard candy. Lollis and jolly ranchers just take too long to consume. But again... When you're at the very edge of human performance and consuming 5k+ calories. You're in a really really niche space.
For some people the general monotony of each meal is part of the deal and makes it way simpler for their consumption. For most people who aren't mentally ill, they'd prob rather die. Whether you have two hard boiled eggs, soft or poached on your morning toast isn't gonna be meaningful. The hot sauce isn't gonna matter, etc etc. But some people go fully insane and don't understand that having a volcanic **** after eating two poached eggs covered in some Ghost Pepper hot sauce is probably not very nutritious.
I think my rage is more toward people who give these incredibly limiting guidelines that morons totally believe and don't understand that they can enjoy a delicious deer steak on occasion instead of lean ground beef. Or subbing in some swordfish for tilapia isn't gonna be the deciding factor in your diet. Like is "white fish" not descriptive enough? Do we need to specifically limit ourselves to three types despite most people being completely unable to tell the difference between halibut and cod? (Lets not discuss plaice.) Will some ****** keep eating a ton of black cod and not understand that its an oily white fish that isn't actually cod?
And to be honest, yes. I think most people are this ******ed and giving these distinctions helps since someone might drink 7-Up or Sprite thinking they're diet sodas since they're clear. Since that is what makes things have calories...
This is exactly why I "broke up" with my coach very quickly. I wanted to sub in things like shrimp or tilapia for chicken breast sometimes and he's just like "NO YOU HAVE TO DO THE MEAL PLAN EXACTLY AS WRITTEN!1!" and clearly doesn't understand how nutrition works. As you say, subbing gummies for oatmeal is obviously dumb, but subbing venison for lean ground beef or shrimp for chicken breast is obviously going to be fine.
That said, I could eat chicken breast, pineapple, rice and various derivatives (cream of rice, rice cakes), green beans, avocado, fat free milk, salmon, and blueberries for 90%+ of my daily calories for years on end and feel great.
Some of these coaches have developed really good protocols via trial and error that will obviously generate elite bodybuilding "athletes", but they seem blissfully unaware of why the protocol worked or what parts could be modified to preserve clients sanity and resistant to learning in general.
I'm gonna try to make 'skim milk quark' today. Had some quark for the first time last week and it was amazing. If that doesn't work out, I'll try making skim milk cottage cheese instead. I definitely miss having cheese in my diet but I need to figure out a low fat/fat free cheese I can make as Chinese don't sell this anywhere because most Chinese literally don't know that macronutrients exist and are a thing.
I only trained 3 times on the holiday and mostly just enjoyed life and allowed myself to over eat. Weighed in at 95.6kg in the morning after weighing 91.5 the morning before I left. Didn't take any stimulants or fat burners. Basically it was a 5 day diet break and I'm ready to head back into fat loss. There's just nothing important at stake for this show in June and given the cost of entry fee, tanning, hotel, and transportation it's hard to justify dropping the money on it just for some stage experience which I already have. I've made good progress but I've been very loose with everything and I'd rather go on stage having actually tried hard. I'll be much more locked in for either October 2025 or March 2026 show; I haven't picked which one I'll do yet as it depends on schedule and the conditions of my new job. I'm realizing that I'm probably only around 7-8kg from my classic physique weight cap as an amateur when in stage shredded shape so I really don't need to push aggressively with food and PEDs given how much time I have to put that muscle on.
I'll still get some professionally done photos and maybe video as I wrap up the fat loss phase, however.
This was taken after doing a swedish massage with deep tissue and all that. Very surprisingly this brought out crazy vascularity in my quads.