it's really interesting to me to see how much carbs you eat. I've always assumed that limiting carbs and getting my calories from 'good' fats like nuts, avocado, seeds is the way for me to get leaner and stay that way and tbh, it's always seemed to work...or I felt like it was, but maybe that's just the easiest way for me to consumer less cals than I'm burning?

I know for a fact that you know way way more than me about building muscle and stripping fat, so I'm beginning to think that perhaps I need to go into a hole and reassess my nutrition approach, now that the easy fat losses/body comp gains have been achieved.

I'm curious how much it would change for me as 52yo natty who mainly eats conventional 3x a day vs much younger non natty eating 5x per.

If you want to train hard and fuel performance, you need carbohydrates.


If you are obese and need to lose fat but don't necessarily need to perform at a high level, keto is great. For bodybuilders and strength athletes who need to maintain performance to preserve tissue, carbs are a must. When you are already high bodyfat you don't really lose much performance limiting carbohydrates, but once you reach a certain level of leanness (you may not be there yet), reducing carbohydrates just gets you flat, weak, and stringy.

Keto is probably a better approach if overall health rather than performance and aesthetics is the goal.

The carbs you eat matter a lot; if I were spamming white rice and cream of rice like a lot of the more 'tarded bodybuilders do even while cutting, I'd be feeling horrible. But 300g of carbs from oatmeal, potato/sweet potato, blueberries, raspberries, bananas, and green apples is just tremendously satiating. Even more so than 80/20 ground beef, salmon, steak, bacon, cheeses etc.

Rice products are fine for bulking.

Both of these guys are around your age. Don't let yourself think age is holding you back from anything but turbo-elite levels of fitness.

I've managed to consume enough berries to give me viscous stomach aches on more than one occasion. I would not call them satiating in the least.

I had to stop going to market and spending >$10 on berries lest this happen again and ruin my day.

I don't think there is anything wrong with thinking about random people from the internet years later. I have a mutual friend with kpc and we occasionally wonder if he's alive, what he's doing, etc. So of the other guy's I worked with are occasionally discussed as well. (Some guy named Paul B who wanted to buy 20 CRXs and also used a solver to play online chest.) Always nice to reminisce. Is MLY still doing spreadsheets to show how it is impossible to attain a healthy weight? Does loco hate mayo? Does he spaz at azn fusion places with siracha or wasabi mayo? Will we get another ABP x Loco tale? OTOH if you find yourself dwelling on some internet argument from years ago. Prob stop. Like El D and I will occasionally talk about me getting utterly rekt in the ribeye/filet debate of yore. But this is a fond memory and something we talk about because its funny. (Ironic as well since I did and still do eat a much higher amount of ribeye than he does relative to overall steak consumption.)

tldr: Thinking about stuff ain't bad. Dwelling on weird **** is bad.

thank you for this. Will listen to it on my next walk