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Yesterday , 08:06 PM
it's really interesting to me to see how much carbs you eat. I've always assumed that limiting carbs and getting my calories from 'good' fats like nuts, avocado, seeds is the way for me to get leaner and stay that way and tbh, it's always seemed to work...or I felt like it was, but maybe that's just the easiest way for me to consumer less cals than I'm burning?

I know for a fact that you know way way more than me about building muscle and stripping fat, so I'm beginning to think that perhaps I need to go into a hole and reassess my nutrition approach, now that the easy fat losses/body comp gains have been achieved.

I'm curious how much it would change for me as 52yo natty who mainly eats conventional 3x a day vs much younger non natty eating 5x per.
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Yesterday , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
it's really interesting to me to see how much carbs you eat. I've always assumed that limiting carbs and getting my calories from 'good' fats like nuts, avocado, seeds is the way for me to get leaner and stay that way and tbh, it's always seemed to work...or I felt like it was, but maybe that's just the easiest way for me to consumer less cals than I'm burning?

I know for a fact that you know way way more than me about building muscle and stripping fat, so I'm beginning to think that perhaps I need to go into a hole and reassess my nutrition approach, now that the easy fat losses/body comp gains have been achieved.

I'm curious how much it would change for me as 52yo natty who mainly eats conventional 3x a day vs much younger non natty eating 5x per.
If you want to train hard and fuel performance, you need carbohydrates.


If you are obese and need to lose fat but don't necessarily need to perform at a high level, keto is great. For bodybuilders and strength athletes who need to maintain performance to preserve tissue, carbs are a must. When you are already high bodyfat you don't really lose much performance limiting carbohydrates, but once you reach a certain level of leanness (you may not be there yet), reducing carbohydrates just gets you flat, weak, and stringy.

Keto is probably a better approach if overall health rather than performance and aesthetics is the goal.

The carbs you eat matter a lot; if I were spamming white rice and cream of rice like a lot of the more 'tarded bodybuilders do even while cutting, I'd be feeling horrible. But 300g of carbs from oatmeal, potato/sweet potato, blueberries, raspberries, bananas, and green apples is just tremendously satiating. Even more so than 80/20 ground beef, salmon, steak, bacon, cheeses etc.

Rice products are fine for bulking.
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Yesterday , 09:27 PM


Both of these guys are around your age. Don't let yourself think age is holding you back from anything but turbo-elite levels of fitness.
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Today , 02:30 AM
I've managed to consume enough berries to give me viscous stomach aches on more than one occasion. I would not call them satiating in the least.

I had to stop going to market and spending >$10 on berries lest this happen again and ruin my day.

I don't think there is anything wrong with thinking about random people from the internet years later. I have a mutual friend with kpc and we occasionally wonder if he's alive, what he's doing, etc. So of the other guy's I worked with are occasionally discussed as well. (Some guy named Paul B who wanted to buy 20 CRXs and also used a solver to play online chest.) Always nice to reminisce. Is MLY still doing spreadsheets to show how it is impossible to attain a healthy weight? Does loco hate mayo? Does he spaz at azn fusion places with siracha or wasabi mayo? Will we get another ABP x Loco tale? OTOH if you find yourself dwelling on some internet argument from years ago. Prob stop. Like El D and I will occasionally talk about me getting utterly rekt in the ribeye/filet debate of yore. But this is a fond memory and something we talk about because its funny. (Ironic as well since I did and still do eat a much higher amount of ribeye than he does relative to overall steak consumption.)

tldr: Thinking about stuff ain't bad. Dwelling on weird **** is bad.
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Today , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GuyThatGoesToDaGym


Both of these guys are around your age. Don't let yourself think age is holding you back from anything but turbo-elite levels of fitness.

thank you for this. Will listen to it on my next walk
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Today , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
I've managed to consume enough berries to give me viscous stomach aches on more than one occasion. I would not call them satiating in the least.

I had to stop going to market and spending >$10 on berries lest this happen again and ruin my day.

I don't think there is anything wrong with thinking about random people from the internet years later. I have a mutual friend with kpc and we occasionally wonder if he's alive, what he's doing, etc. So of the other guy's I worked with are occasionally discussed as well. (Some guy named Paul B who wanted to buy 20 CRXs and also used a solver to play online chest.) Always nice to reminisce. Is MLY still doing spreadsheets to show how it is impossible to attain a healthy weight? Does loco hate mayo? Does he spaz at azn fusion places with siracha or wasabi mayo? Will we get another ABP x Loco tale? OTOH if you find yourself dwelling on some internet argument from years ago. Prob stop. Like El D and I will occasionally talk about me getting utterly rekt in the ribeye/filet debate of yore. But this is a fond memory and something we talk about because its funny. (Ironic as well since I did and still do eat a much higher amount of ribeye than he does relative to overall steak consumption.)

tldr: Thinking about stuff ain't bad. Dwelling on weird **** is bad.

I almost dread posting this as I've managed to keep this iteration of my log uncontroversial and bodybuilding focused, but here it goes. If a reader is prone to taking offense, do not open. Fainting couch ready:

Spoiler:
I remember the MLYLT simps attacking me (not knowing my own story) about how MLYLT's trauma was so unique and how DARE I suggest something like dietary interventions, abstaining from alcohol, sleeping according to circadian rythmn, stepcount, maybe considering religiosity, healthy and sustainable exercise habits, and looksmaxxing to gain social status could POSSIBLY be better solution than what she'd been doing for her mental health for years prior (circular ad nauseam talk therapy and psychiatric medication). In their perception, this was a gross dismissal of how severe and complex her trauma was (which naturally she adopted as a major part of her identity). I can't remember any of their screen names, but the irony of it will stick with me for a long time. I was more amused than rattled. By then I was recovered enough to not feel the need to inform them that I knew exactly what she was going through from first hand experience.

I'm glad that some more mainstream commentators are starting to acknowledge not only that a lot of therapy is complete bullshit, but can actually make people sicker. Mental health professionals have even less incentive to cure you than regular doctors, who frankly get a lot of undeserved flak (even from me). And if you are actually high functioning and not creating a lot of headache for a therapist during sessions, and thus are more capable of rehabilitation, they have even more incentive to keep you coming back to continue billing you. Thank god I had one very motivated professional who essentially told me "lmao you have a master's degree and have held multiple jobs for years, most of my patients can barely get out of bed or stop themselves from taking drugs or becoming homeless. I gotta put em on meds so they don't endanger themselves or people around them. You ain't sick. gtfo of my office and tell your mom you're ****ing off to china she doens't know **** she's a post menopausal ******ed normie" Most of them did not take this approach...

Saying "herp derp go to therapy" used to be this panacea that was doled out for whatever ails you. But then it was simultaneously used by the same people suggesting it as a cure as some sort of pejorative insult. Quite the contradiction... Slowly people are realizing that maybe therapist are not witch-doctor gods who can fix anything. A lot of them are pretty ****ed themselves and not exactly aspirational figures.

The very uncomfortable black pilling truth is that the way you feel about yourself is very frequently a reflection of how others feel about you and how they treat you. And how others feel about you is often the result of simple and shallow cognitive heuristics based on your external appearance and presentation. The very white-pilling and hopeful part of this is that you have a shockingly high efficacy over this. Low social status is not a mental illness and has a fairly easy cure of "look better" and there's tons of low hanging fruit you can pick on this front, particularly if you are an obese white female where cutting down the number of midnight trips to wendys is all you need to drop like 20lbs.

There was some other guy on here who's name I forgot who was into this whole therapy is the answer to all life's problems crap. worked at a bakery or smth I can't remember the name or much other details. Would post from a position of very high authority despite the fact that these methods of mental health rehabilitation had done little to meaningfully improve his situation.
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