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11-04-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BPA234
amazing life advice
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11-05-2017 , 03:19 AM
BPA,

In earnest I wish you would post more. (silly insulting rhymes notwithstanding)

Also, I used to live reasonably near Sarasota. Maybe if the Rays get near the WS again, I'll grab a workout with you and then your neckbearding about my breathing/etc can go on full force. (Well once I'm assured you won't hulk smash me. I talked about this earlier about the people I could beat, women obv, in MMA fights. And it we similar to whether MLY could beat me if she fell on me. If you can't get em off, welp.)

Regardless, I don't think there is anything wrong with that article per se. If you train like a *****, you will always be a *****. BBers always get ridiculed for being "weak", but there is not a single IFBB pro that can't go 400/500/600. And most with ease. Big Ron would laugh at those and has the dap to show for it.

In a terrible anecdotal story. I did much better (Part 3) cutting way down on volume. And implementing part 4. I slept ~11.5hr last night. Woke up 2x so call it 10hr. Still prob more than most get. But I'm trying to lift heavy. (Had long work day + drinks after so OMG gonna push it off a day) Ultimately everyone agrees that if you lift heavy things and rest, then repeat; you will get stronger.

Clayton,

To be honest you're just a massive ***** that has never lifted heavy. Get your form right and get after it. Ultimately I kinda agree with BPA on xfit, but (I would go so far as to say he agrees with this statement) you'd be much better served getting your head out of your ass and learning proper form and just grinding the same **** many people have for years. I really hope you have great success. It has taken me almost 20 years to have a clue, and I hope I can expedite that journey for you. Ultimately its upto you.
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11-06-2017 , 02:24 AM
Benches were occupied and a squat rack was open so I went squat, bench, DL today

Squat - 185, 5/5/5
Bench - 140, 5/5/5
DL - 205, 5

I watched a bunch of Alan Thrall vids today trying to plug leaks, I noticed my arms are flaring a little bit too much in the squat at address. In previous sets I would sorta subconsciously fix this right as I started the movement but there's too many moving parts. Made a point to focus on getting my arms a little bit more in line with my back angle and have my breathing be correct so there's fewer moving parts in the system. Aimed for correct squat depth and pacing too.

I don't understand why my head looks like a turtle poking out of a shell when looking at the squat from the side, everything feels normal and I'm looking about 5-6 feet in front of me (I think?) but visually it doesn't look right.

Bench went very favorably, I benefited from improving my breathing.





DL seems better, though I will note that I'm getting into a habit where by the third rep I'm sorta forgetting what the hell I'm supposed to be doing, just brain fog where I forget my mental checklist. Sometimes it results in sloppy reps, tho I think these weren't too bad. I'm still a little tilt that a couple of my reps I'm not maintaining proper back angle on the way down, but I didn't get punished via straining anything. The reps felt good.



Holler if you notice anything. Crossfit thing on Tuesday, standard cardio tomorrow. Fitbit should arrive and I'll have a nice macro calorie log going too.

Last edited by Clayton; 11-06-2017 at 02:31 AM.
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11-06-2017 , 07:30 AM
Your squat looks very good. No concern re: had positioning that I can see.

DL also good, although you're not getting as tight on the later reps in the set as you did on the first two. That will come, though.

Keep adding weight to both.
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11-06-2017 , 08:09 AM
Squat looks good. DL is okay just looks like you are still getting used to it.
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11-06-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
Your squat looks very good. No concern re: had positioning that I can see.

DL also good, although you're not getting as tight on the later reps in the set as you did on the first two. That will come, though.

Keep adding weight to both.
+1. Have you ever actually missed a rep, or just backed down when you were dissatisfied with form?
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11-06-2017 , 06:07 PM
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11-06-2017 , 07:21 PM
Are those cushioned Nike running shoes?
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11-06-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
Are those cushioned Nike running shoes?
i use romaleos for squatting and normal shoes for deadlifting. frankly i'd prefer just not wearing shoes at all to DL but figured that would cause the rest of the gym to be weirded out.

this falls under another category where smart reputable people seem to consistently be on opposing viewpoints (what shoes to wear deadlifting). some say just keep wearing the romaleos, some say you want a sole lower to the ground. since you asked, i'm gonna guess you're in the camp that says i should always keep on the romaleos.

i recently bought some crossfit shoes to upgrade over my regular running shoes but got a dumb heel blister from wearing too thin socks.

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Originally Posted by COCKBOAT
+1. Have you ever actually missed a rep, or just backed down when you were dissatisfied with form?
i wouldnt even know how to properly back down/miss/abandon a rep if it didnt feel right. so to answer your question, no.
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11-06-2017 , 07:36 PM
I don't wouldn't deadlift in either.

The romaleos are going to be a slight deficit. But your deadlift is weakish in form, so that's going to make it a hair worse.

Barefoot or minimalist shoes. Innov-8 makes a nice CrossFit shoe that is okay for deadlift but not for poors.
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11-06-2017 , 07:40 PM
I squat, deadlift, run in the same shoes. Merrell. But pretty sure innov-8 has a pair also.

Squat shoes are major FPS.
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11-06-2017 , 07:42 PM
So in between neckbearding about your form and blaming exercise order for your injury, you didn't bother to learn how to actually not get hurt if you ever for some unknown reason managed to try?

Cmon man. You've allegedly been attempting to look like a grown man for a few years, have made very dubious progress and are just kinda willfully ignorant while spending no actual effort either physical or mental to help attain your goals. I mean, slow carbs? Doing some bull**** guy-off-the-internet mashup of Strong Lifts/GSLP/SS?

Your CF box sounds terrible btw. But it isn't any worse than anything else since this has all been a giant dumpster fire.

I exclusively clean position deadlift in my WL shoes now. I did it in socks almost exclusively when trying for weight. It makes no difference. Anyone with a strong view on one or the other is an idiot.
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11-06-2017 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
I don't wouldn't deadlift in either.

The romaleos are going to be a slight deficit. But your deadlift is weakish in form, so that's going to make it a hair worse.

Barefoot or minimalist shoes. Innov-8 makes a nice CrossFit shoe that is okay for deadlift but not for poors.
how much am i giving up by having my regular tennis shoes? i figured they were minimalist enough given there's hardly any sole in them.

(fwiw the crossfit shoes i got were reebok crossfit speed Tr 2.0s)

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Originally Posted by loco
Squat shoes are major FPS.
well, yeah, i mean. idk the alternative unless it's paying up for shoes that are supposedly good for everything. my coach had told me get romaleos for everything and so i did. but i questioned the logic of using them for DL cuz functionally they felt very not right and i had read a fair bit online about stressing no shoes or low soled. so i use romas just for squatting *shrug* just toss em in my bag and carry em along no big deal.
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11-06-2017 , 08:03 PM
I look for simplicity. A shoe that does it all.

Squat shoes are not that. You can't run in them and personally I am not interested in deficit deadlifts. When you have short arms, I want the opposite. That's why I sumo.

The CrossFit shoes might be okay for everything. But there is no point in even discussing this. You have fancy squat shoes already, so use them.

Soft cushioned shoe the worst option for deadlift.
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11-06-2017 , 08:08 PM
I wore Nike Frees till I actually did WLing, then I bought WLing shoes.

Soft soled shoes are bad, but again this is super irrelevant when you've never met a weight you can't lift since you're just not willing to try to lift anything that might be heavy.
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11-06-2017 , 08:09 PM
next DL i'll do i'll use the crossfit shoes and u let me know if those are fine or if i should just spew on some minimalist shoes. i'm already using my crossfit shoes for crossfit so its no biggie. cost not an issue.
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11-06-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
So in between neckbearding about your form and blaming exercise order for your injury, you didn't bother to learn how to actually not get hurt if you ever for some unknown reason managed to try?
i got coaching on proper form, didn't get coaching on abandoning a rep, no. i can get out of a rep if its really called for, and has happened, but like for example i don't have a lot of experience dropping the bar off my back if a squat rep goes wrong. hadn't really considered practicing something like that (just dropping the bar onto the floor over and over) but i guess i ought to.

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Cmon man. You've allegedly been attempting to look like a grown man for a few years, have made very dubious progress and are just kinda willfully ignorant while spending no actual effort either physical or mental to help attain your goals.
i'm not even gonna engage this line of discussion.

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Your CF box sounds terrible btw. But it isn't any worse than anything else since this has all been a giant dumpster fire.
no u.

tuesday cf should be more lifting oriented so prolly paints a better picture for longterm cf usage. if their more lift heavy set is still too cardio-ish then i'm gonna hit up the personal training at the other crossfit gym.
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11-06-2017 , 08:12 PM
If you really care, you can spend 15 bucks on some DL slippers or 40 (?) bucks on some chucks, assuming pulling barefoot actually isn't an option.

But yes, to reiterate, keep adding weight.

Re: "failing" reps, that last squat video was a 10RM at worst. You need to tell your innerEV to shut up and grind a little. And, should you have to fail a squat, that's what the safety bars are for.
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11-06-2017 , 08:14 PM
What are the Adidas brand?

This is the order
Barefoot/minimalist
Squat shoes/multi purpose such as CrossFit
•••••••••
Cushioned donk shoes
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11-06-2017 , 08:14 PM
Or find the safety bars and learn to work them.

They are the black things next to the rack that say "Matrix" on them.

Good luck.
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11-06-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
Re: "failing" reps, that last squat video was a 10RM at worst. You need to tell your innerEV to shut up and grind a little. And, should you have to fail a squat, that's what the safety bars are for.
ya it's something i need more experience in. i anticipate i will get there as i keep adding on weight.

it's weird u say that it looks like a 10RM cuz as it's happening it sure doesn't feel like it.

last couple weeks i have rarely gotten above 5 reps on the workset so the progression is looking more SS-ish just in terms of 5 reps vs amrap.

i could just try and really put myself in the hole next go round (possibly thursday) and go for more reps at 190lbs.
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11-06-2017 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
What are the Adidas brand?
sry my brain constantly mixes up adidas and reebok, the brand i got was

reebok crossfit speed Tr 2.0s

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Or find the safety bars and learn to work them.

They are the black things next to the rack that say "Matrix" on them.

Good luck.
yeap.

the matrix ones at my gym are a bit rickety, does anyone else experience this? i feel like if i dropped the bar onto these things that the matrix safety things would fly away in a fashion that reminds me of flicking a paper football.
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11-06-2017 , 08:21 PM
The first thing I teach someone when squatting is dumping the bar. Learn that next session imo.

I pull in WL shoes currently, but have previously pulled in socks, wrestling shoes, etc... It's all a pretty nitty discussion really, pulling in your reeboks is fine.
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11-06-2017 , 08:25 PM
You're squatting 200lbs. Full stop. Worrying about the safety bars failing is like worrying if you'll snap the bar pulling too hard during your DL.
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11-06-2017 , 08:28 PM
The CrossFit shoe will probably get the job done for everything. I hope you got the red ones, they look sweet.
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