I'm 25 and rarely drink.

AJ: I was reading on dragondoor about 1 arm pull ups and developing maximum pull up strength. They basically said that wide grip pull ups don't actually help in development of hypertrophy or strength when compared to the standard width and that they actually damage your shoulder joint. I have no idea if it is true but something to look into.

Question? If I want to add some box jumps into my routine where should I put them? On the off days like twice a week or something else?

WTF is this 11-T stuff?

dunno and I can't believe biotest would release such an expensive product when they seem to have absolutely no concrete information or expectations re: the product that they will share with the consumer, except that it is awesome and has a money back guarantee

I figure it's still worth monitoring the results of the people who take it and considering, but I'm very skeptical

Saw myself in the mirror today- damn I have a long way to go.

They seem to have a pretty mixed bag. All the andro-esque stuff worked. Hot Rox did. The Myostat **** was literally snake oil. I heard methoxy 7 was scammament as well. Tribulus is pretty std. I dunno much to anything about the new stuff. But 225 for 6 weeks of spray on? Gimme a break.

LIGHT WEIGHT, YEAHHHHH BUDDY!


AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A PEANUT

ronnie coleman

wtf

I just bought this protein drink from my local Kelly's Market (convenience store)

http://www.metrx.com/labels/014057.pdf

A met-rx drink thing, I'm drinking it now. It's probably terrible in some way.

Is it terrible health wise?

I'll take a look. Dragon door has some good stuff.

I'm not sure but off days sounds like a bad idea. Most of the programs I've seen have had them after Olympic lifts or supersetted with or programmed around DE movements. It seems like they should just be done on lower body days, idk when the best time would be though. It seems like you could hurt yourself or would at least have severely decreased performance doing box jumps after a heavy power squat* or deadlift but I'm just taking a shot in the dark here.

*this is finally what I've decided to call all variations of low-bar squatting, if you guys want to nitpick it you can suck it =)

Any of you use the thick Olympic bars sometimes/always? I guess they weight 50, not 45? Seemed hard as hell doing cleans with it.

They are great for grip strength and forearms. I used them when I was working on my DL and I wanted my grip to be stronger. Some guys even do specific thick-bar training.

I haven't used em in a while though.

anybody belong to 24hour fitness? i've been to a bunch: missouri, denver, salt lake, portland

24 Hr Ultra Sport is pretty nice.

I've been to a few here in vegas. they are pretty solid when you want to work out at 2am.

I belong to 24, and have seen a couple. There's a wide variety, from hole in the walls to movie star level.

I go to a very nice one in a good neighborhood, but it's not one of the "ultra" ones. My only complaint is the lack of squat racks some 24-hr's have. Even the nice one I go to doesn't have one, so that kinda sucks. They just have a Smith machine, which is nothing like the same thing.

i go to 24hr...there are two on the same street, one super fancy that my all clubs pass won't even get me into and the regular ghetto one...both have 1 smith, 1 rack, and 1 cage...the niceties are a basketball court, bigger locker rooms, more machines etc...don't care about any of that stuff so the ghetto one is fine for me...

Really? I thought they were just thicker but weighed the same. Makes sense I guess tho.

My gym also has a slightly thinner oly bar that only weighs 35 lbs. I didn't realize it when I first started lifting there until someone mentioned it to me. Of course that day I had just PR'd my bench max with that bar

I belong to 24hr as well. I bought the 3 year package for $900(only 25 a month) then its just $50 a year after that so basically I have nearly free unlimited gym access anywhere west of Houston. I don't think they have moved east of Texas just yet. There are 3 within 5 minutes of my place. I'm not sure why anyone with basic training needs doesn't belong to one.

PR DL @ 265x5 for me today, 1.5x bw, pretty cool. Interesting how as its gotten higher I'm having more problems with the lockout than with the lift.

weak glutes grue, make sure you finish the move with your ass...

or upper back

RDL isn't supposed to be the type of lift you have trouble with the lockout in. It's mainly an eccentric lift with a very explosive concentric and a small ROM for most

you may want to try some rack lockouts. Where's your deadlift at?

did you pay up front? i paid $600 for 3 years up front and $39 every year after that for all the 24s. they are expanding pretty quickly

http://www.24hourfitness.com/clubs/f...teractive.html

opinions on boneless center cut porkchops as a regular protein source? i don't really know if these are healthy/lean or not... they've been in regular rotation with me, along with chicken, ground turkey, eggs and tuna protein-wise.

its a normal dl not rdl

if you can kick it...it's probably good for you.