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04-29-2013 , 05:57 PM
JF,

Looks like a standard Middle Eastern dish. All you are missing is the little cup of brownish red seasoning and all the weird leaves.
04-29-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dassem_ultor
Keep in mind there is no clear scientific evidence fish oil consumption does anything for you, other than give you smelly burps.
Science solved that one - enteric coating
04-29-2013 , 06:06 PM
Some bros want to play a quick Swedish Armed Forces Officer training game?



Games are about 2-6 min. Basically short timed puzzles against the clock with your teammates lives on the line.

http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/englis...ate/Z2myh6WUJc
04-29-2013 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by n4rf
JF the garlic paste is essentially oil, garlic, salt, and egg (or it should be). It's used for the chicken.

The pink pickle is pickled turnip with beets used to color the white turnip pink, otherwise the turnip just looks pale and unappealing. Not really sure why historically they decided to color them pink though

As far as the rice, I don't know. Come from a Lebanese background and the rice is foreign to me
This is actually super helpful, thanks.
04-29-2013 , 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dassem_ultor
Keep in mind there is no clear scientific evidence fish oil consumption does anything for you, other than give you smelly burps.
Even if there is no scientific data, the placebo effect is underrated
04-29-2013 , 06:09 PM
Oh, I guess as a side note, anyone care to guess how many calories that is. After I attempted to guess and enter is all manually it added to right at ~800.

I'm guessing that's pretty reasonable unless someone thinks I'm way off
04-29-2013 , 06:17 PM
Possibly less depending on how much of the garlic sauce you ate
04-29-2013 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dassem_ultor
Keep in mind there is no clear scientific evidence fish oil consumption does anything for you, other than give you smelly burps.
there are a lot of alleged benefits, but the one that concerns me the most is blood pressure reduction. I'll be keeping track of mine while I'm on the fish oil; I'll try to remember to update y'alls in a month.

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Originally Posted by Aidan
3g of omega3's (epa+dpa) total i think is Lyles recommended dosage
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/qa-2.html

yeah, looks like he believes six 300mg omega3 capsules to be the minimum amount. all this stuff is relative to body weight though, and I'm a 180lb male, so I think I'm gonna go with eight for 2.4g/day.
04-29-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nuggetz87
there are a lot of alleged benefits, but the one that concerns me the most is blood pressure reduction. I'll be keeping track of mine while I'm on the fish oil; I'll try to remember to update y'alls in a month.



http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/qa-2.html

yeah, looks like he believes six 300mg omega3 capsules to be the minimum amount. all this stuff is relative to body weight though, and I'm a 180lb male, so I think I'm gonna go with eight for 2.4g/day.
The most obvious difference one can notice with fish oil is that it thins your blood. Hence why they tell you not to take any pre-surgery
04-29-2013 , 06:21 PM
I think that meal is definitely under 800 cal.

I'm thinking:

150-200 for the chicken (is it fried? can't tell)
150 for pita (looks like 2 small pieces?)
150 for rice
150 for garlic sauce

= 600-650
04-29-2013 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by n4rf
The most obvious difference one can notice with fish oil is that it thins your blood. Hence why they tell you not to take any pre-surgery
good to know. is there any reason to take them with food or without?
04-29-2013 , 06:24 PM
Not fried, but I think the rice has more calories.

And yeah def shoveled all the garlic sauce into my mouth via the pita. Thought it was some weird tasting hummus.

lol
04-29-2013 , 06:42 PM
Here is a very recent meta-analysis indicating inconclusive evidence of any benefit, so no need to now. Glad I was able to save you the trouble.

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Originally Posted by nuggetz87
there are a lot of alleged benefits, but the one that concerns me the most is blood pressure reduction. I'll be keeping track of mine while I'm on the fish oil; I'll try to remember to update y'alls in a month.
Efficacy of omega-3 fatty acid supplements (eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid) in the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease: a meta-analysis of randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials.
Kwak SM, Myung SK, Lee YJ, Seo HG; Korean Meta-analysis Study Group.
Collaborators (14)
Source
Center for Cancer Prevention and Detection, Ilsan, Republic of Korea.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
Although previous randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials reported the efficacy of omega-3 fatty acid supplements in the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease (CVD), the evidence remains inconclusive. Using a meta-analysis, we investigated the efficacy of eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid in the secondary prevention of CVD.
METHODS:
We searched PubMed, EMBASE, and the Cochrane Library in April 2011. Two of us independently reviewed and selected eligible randomized controlled trials.
RESULTS:
Of 1007 articles retrieved, 14 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (involving 20 485 patients with a history of CVD) were included in the final analyses. Supplementation with omega-3 fatty acids did not reduce the risk of overall cardiovascular events (relative risk, 0.99; 95% CI, 0.89-1.09), all-cause mortality, sudden cardiac death, myocardial infarction, congestive heart failure, or transient ischemic attack and stroke. There was a small reduction in cardiovascular death (relative risk, 0.91; 95% CI, 0.84-0.99), which disappeared when we excluded a study with major methodological problems. Furthermore, no significant preventive effect was observed in subgroup analyses by the following: country location, inland or coastal geographic area, history of CVD, concomitant medication use, type of placebo material in the trial, methodological quality of the trial, duration of treatment, dosage of eicosapentaenoic acid or docosahexaenoic acid, or use of fish oil supplementation only as treatment.
CONCLUSION:
Our meta-analysis showed insufficient evidence of a secondary preventive effect of omega-3 fatty acid supplements against overall cardiovascular events among patients with a history of cardiovascular disease.
04-29-2013 , 06:43 PM
Probably a garlic aioli.
I go to a Greek place here regularly that makes a chicken souvlaki-esque sandwich with it.
04-29-2013 , 06:51 PM
jdock,

I appreciate the study, and I'm not one to ignore well done scientific studies. unfortunately I have already purchased the fish oil, so I see no reason not to try it out for a month and note any (real or fake) differences.
04-29-2013 , 06:52 PM
I'm really big into trying new stuff lately so it was a pretty good place to do a lot of that.

I was going to order something a little more exotic than chicken skewers but when I walked in and said "This place was recommended to come get some lunch" he was just like "You get de chicken kabob den. Everybody like de chicken kabob we do den all day."

So w/e
04-29-2013 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nuggetz87
jdock,

I appreciate the study, and I'm not one to ignore well done scientific studies. unfortunately I have already purchased the fish oil, so I see no reason not to try it out for a month and note any (real or fake) differences.
Fair enough. That being said everyone in this thread who has provided a "recommended dosage" is pretty much just pulling a number out of their ass.
04-29-2013 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nuggetz87
good to know. is there any reason to take them with food or without?
Taking them with food will reduce gross fish burps.
04-29-2013 , 07:28 PM
I don't know if it's optimum's fish oil, or somehow my body stopped producing fish burps, but I never get the fish burps anymore. I only got them when I first started taking them 7 years ago
04-29-2013 , 07:30 PM
When I used to take them I would put them in the freezer, worked well for smell.
Now I just put fish oil into smoothies.
04-29-2013 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
so how does everyone like their coffee?
I finally bought myself a new moka pot on the weekend. I've been using a sh*tty French press with coffee that is ground too fine.

ftr the coffee is this busto brazilian coffee called "pilao" (not sure if you get it in other countries). it's cheap and busto and i'm sure for actual coffee nerds it is total lolbiscuits, but eye-mo it is delicious.

note: i am obv as coffee noob as i are scotch noob, but i know what i like (and it's usually busto cheap stuff).
04-29-2013 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dassem_ultor
Fair enough. That being said everyone in this thread who has provided a "recommended dosage" is pretty much just pulling a number out of their ass.
Out of Lyle's ass IMO.
04-29-2013 , 07:44 PM
and I hear he ****s gold
04-29-2013 , 09:20 PM
Jdock,

That study seems to only be commenting on secondary prevention of vascular events in those with a history of cvd.

I have nothing else to add but it's important to know who they were looking at and what they were looking for.

E.g. Statins don't help in primary prevention of ihd but do as secondary prevention.
04-29-2013 , 09:34 PM
am i the only one here who likes fish burbs?

      
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