So the article is just bitching about the steroids prohibition and how this goes against people's personal freedom? So EVERY Olympic sport should be looked down upon? (Just skimmed through the text.)

Maybe I am misreading this, but Liberal and Libertarian are not the same thing.

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it's basically saying the IOC is a tyrannical organization oppressing the masses through their harsh stance against drugs.


HS,
poorly worded on my part if so. Definitely did not mean that.

Withdrawn. I guess I was just going by low grade rugby in aus where on any given day every scrum or ruck is likely to end up in a fight, cheap shots on and off the ball, stomping, etc

Lol Aussies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIGREZw4Sr4

I've seen an interview where Mendelson says that there needs to be one single worldwide federation for bodybuilding to become an Olympic sport, I guess it's the same for powerlifting. But the shirts alone change the game so much it could be a sport all by itself imo. So the lifters who are not going to conform can do their own thing, like they are now anyway, and we can have raw, drug tested lifters in the Olympics. Erbody happy? For the record, I think the steroid ban is ******ed.

lulz what do you expect when a bunch of aussie backpackers meet a bunch of irish backpackers.

hooligans vs convicts. love it.

Ra would know more about this than me, but I think it was after that series or maybe the next one they suspended the international rules series because of the fighting... iirc one of the problems was that there was no judicial system so no threat of punishment and neither of the international federations involved would suspend any of their players from domestic competition for misconduct... Eventually (again, could be wrong here...) I think the series came back to life in '08 and everyone had to promise to be good boys and girls and play in the spirit of the game.

Hilarious for professional sportsmen imo ...and by "professional sportsmen" I mean "professional sportsmen and Irishmen" amirite?!??!?!

Yeah thats basically what happened. Many in GAA circles thought it was actively harming our sport. I think the opposite, its a nice promotional spectacle. Its all senseless really, the fighting that went on. Hilarious but pretty senseless all the same. Especially considering its basically men vs boys.

Agree, I think it's good promo.

In fact, the international series and the AFL grand final are the only "AFL" games I make sure to watch each year.

It's pretty easy for most people to learn form that isn't an abomination in their first lesson if they have decent coaching.

But you're right, the fact that they're saying good job chuck and encouraging him to perform exhaustive workouts where his form will break down further when his form is that bad to start definitely suggests they are amazing coaches. I stand corrected.

was very hard to read. 10 minutes after attempting to read it, i don't remember anything about it really.

i don't think powerlifting should be in the olympics, but the deadlift as an event by itself would be pretty epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUV...el_video_title

It's an American one btw. I want it so bad even though I've never shot a round in my life.

i guess i'll just respectfully disagree. cause it looks like the girl behind him has pretty decent form (that she most likely learned from the same coaches) and i've seen quite often guys that are really strong, as i imagine chuck probably is, it's hard for them to not just muscle the weight up with truly bad form.

I mean what I'm saying is one of the common gripes with crossfit. They encourage working to exhaustion and don't care about form breakdown.

You're right though that they are likely capable of teaching the lifts well, but technique teaching isn't the whole of what they should be doing. They should be programming differently for someone still working on technique. He's never going to learn the lifts properly if he's doing so many reps in an exhausted state.

My sister has been doing crossfit for a year. She is not hardcore about it only going 3 times a week or so and taking long breaks, but she still cuts off her airsquats well above parallel, and the instructors let her get away with it, focusing instead on doing as many reps as possible until exhaustion well past total form breakdown.

I actually learned how to squat at a different crossfit gym, and they were real anal about squatting to parallel and using good form on every workout.

I do not know what the moral is, except maybe all crossfit boxes are different and some focus on form more and others focus on doing as many reps with bad form as possible.

there's also the fact that he's old, likeable and was at one point an elite athlete. people are generally more timid to actually coach him and not just kiss ass, and he is probably not as "willing" to be coached to begin with.

otherwise, "that was awful" definitely wasn't what i felt after watching that. many people here who have tried power cleans longer than a week, likely watched coaching videos, and even gotten feedback on form look like charles barkley trying to power clean. the fact that it's cardiofit only makes me less judgmental about form, as well. the real reason not to do the stuff he does, like catching in his arms while leaning back, is to not get hurt. that isn't much of a concern with 145lb.

it really depends on the gym you go to. there are a lot of trainers whose only experience is they get their level 1 certification which imo doesn't qualify them to teach almost any of the movements. the one i go to is very strict about maintaining form through most of the workout and the head trainer incorporates SS into the programming. so yea, no surprise, some trainers/gyms are better than others.

i agree with most of this.

and fwiw, i think i read that they did scale his workout to 10 min as opposed to the 20 min prescribed workout. judging by that video, he probably only got through 10 power cleans at the most.

Top 2 comments for the Barkley vid:

"The only thing I have a beef with here is Charles' form when deadlifting. Never look down during a deadlift. It puts a massive strain on the back. The girls all knew that, and I'm shocked that Charles didn't and nobody corrected him." (funny on so many levels)


"If them girls aint lesbians they should consider it."

Why they'd let him use 145# with that form is beyond me. Catching like that makes my wrists & shoulders scream.

This is true. I have seen both ends of the spectrum.

LOL at earlier posters referring to Taio Cruz as rap music in the beginning of Barkley video.

Dynamite

you should hate watching anyone remotely strong overhead pressing!

145 for a former elite athlete who is ~300lbs.

I agree with blackize about it's better to just learn the movements and get decent motor patterns established before going all metcon with the movements where 90% of your reps are in a fatigued state. But form breakdown with light weight really isn't a big deal as far as getting hurt or anything.

I just got the ironmind "short and sweet" lifting straps today. They arrived on 4/20, but the post office at my school didn't tell me until today ofc. These things are kinda hard to actually put on because they have no loop, just flashy blue pieces of seat belt material. I'm going to use a stapler to put a loop on them and they should be just barely long enough to get over the bar snuggly. Definitely don't need to worry about bailing behind safely though, the bar slides right out if you release tension. If anyone plans on getting straps for oly lifting, go for the 21 inch ones with a loop, they're only 3 inches longer than the short and sweet and made of the same material so you can safely snatch with them.