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Old 03-02-2010, 09:29 PM   #126
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That is not anyone's idea of fitness. I refuse to believe you are this dense.

Only bodybuilders prefer large muscular men to skinny ones? You cannot actually believe that.
whats your defintion of skinny? most people would say some stick kid who's never been inside a gym. the comparison is large with a gut vs lean and defined
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:30 PM   #127
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Some of us are walking around at just over 10% at 195 lbs.
i don't doubt that hence the word most not and all
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Okay. So clearly 3 people are representative of the entire forum at large. And you apply that label to now "most" of the people posting. Are you aware of which logs have people around 15% bf or under? I can think of more than you're listing for fatbodies and make conjecture on others that are right around there.

But again, what does that even have to do with anything? Generalizations are the playground of the idiot.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:30 PM   #129
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That is not anyone's idea of fitness. I refuse to believe you are this dense.
propbet?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:31 PM   #130
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whats your defintion of skinny? most people would say some stick kid who's never been inside a gym. the comparison is large with a gut vs lean and defined
More about how you're lean and defined, but in reality just have no appreciable amounts of LBM.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:33 PM   #131
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propbet?
That you are that dense? Nah....
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:36 PM   #132
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man, i wonder how much nycballer would cry after my fatass crushed him on a bike ride.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:37 PM   #133
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all this pull up talk has got me thinking

if you could pick one exercise to test overall strength, what would it be? How about a 1rm test and another for max reps, I guess that'd be chins or push-ups.

Deadlifts for 1RM?
for pure strength, i'd pick overhead squat.

for fitness, i'd go army PFT.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:37 PM   #134
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man, i wonder how much nycballer would cry after my fatass crushed him on a bike ride.
He'd probably brag about being able to squat 14 ounces or some equally trivial fitness goal.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:40 PM   #135
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1) nycballer is banned for a week. I'd have banned him after his first post but I was working for the past 3 hours and I thought he would listen to instructions. Today is the first time I've ever seen his posts.

2) No one gets banned for arguing. People get banned for completely derailing discussion with pointless attacks and trolling (not funny trolling). And he didn't even get banned for that (well just one thread).
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:40 PM   #136
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Thread title stays BITCHES.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:41 PM   #137
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boom goes the banhammer
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:45 PM   #138
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damn why'd nycballer have to get banned before telling us his awesome curl and fly machine routine to get so ripped and cut and have a 1.2 BW max bench
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:46 PM   #139
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Okay. So clearly 3 people are representative of the entire forum at large. And you apply that label to now "most" of the people posting. Are you aware of which logs have people around 15% bf or under? I can think of more than you're listing for fatbodies and make conjecture on others that are right around there.
Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:48 PM   #140
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Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?
I doubt anyone gets to SS as the program as written by Mark R. consists of a caloric surplus. So its kinda absurd to think you diet down with it. Even if you accept the weight lifting framework separate from the diet, linear progression halts quickly, even in beginners, when coupled with a caloric deficit. So the question is immensely flawed. I'm not sure if you honestly don't know wtf you're talking about or are trolling. But this question makes no sense.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:50 PM   #141
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lol this thread. im going to a party.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:52 PM   #142
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Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?
I stayed well under 15% while gaining 20 pounds. I probably started at sub 8 though. (Caliper tests were always around 3 lol)
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:53 PM   #143
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I doubt anyone gets to SS as the program as written by Mark R. consists of a caloric surplus. So its kinda absurd to think you diet down with it. Even if you accept the weight lifting framework separate from the diet, linear progression halts quickly, even in beginners, when coupled with a caloric deficit. So the question is immensely flawed. I'm not sure if you honestly don't know wtf you're talking about or are trolling. But this question makes no sense.
People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:56 PM   #144
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People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.
Can you give an example of someone cutting and doing SS, since it happens "all the time"?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:57 PM   #145
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I stayed well under 15% while gaining 20 pounds. I probably started at sub 8 though. (Caliper tests were always around 3 lol)
I actually thought of your log but was pretty sure you did some non ss stuff and cardio. Also your number's are epic for weighing so little.
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Can you give an example of someone cutting and doing SS, since it happens "all the time"?
Prediction confirmed obv, moving on now.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:01 PM   #147
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for pure strength, i'd pick overhead squat.
wow no
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:04 PM   #148
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People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.
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Prediction confirmed obv, moving on now.
Wat?

Are you really trying to argue that a novice who starts from a random arbitrary bodyfat percentage, and is then instructed to "cut" and you want him to reach <15% bodyfat? You do realize that caloric deficit and recovery are inversely correlated. The more deficit, the less recovery. So it'd be amazingly difficult for even the untrained to lose appreciable amounts of bodyfat while increasing weight every workout.

You don't understand what you're trying to discuss.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:09 PM   #149
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i just cant stop loling at people not realizing SS is a periodization based program, and not anyone's idea of an ongoing fitness program.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:15 PM   #150
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I actually thought of your log but was pretty sure you did some non ss stuff and cardio. Also your number's are epic for weighing so little.
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i just cant stop loling at people not realizing SS is a periodization based program, and not anyone's idea of an ongoing fitness program.
This. I did straight SS for a while. Pre-log on here.
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