Losing mass amounts of strength when dieting means you're ****ing something up. The purpose of bulking then cutting isn't to end up at the same ****ing place you start and just have something to do for a year.

You could just get nycballer and save 9 months.

F no. I have a lumbar spine made of adamantium.

But to address the question a bit more specifically, I would try pulling triples once a week. Partial movements are... kinda silly, since you're not working through a sticking point. You're just too malnourished to be strong. Making the movement easier doesn't make sense.

ETA: What Thremp said should be obvious. Also repeated multiple times is the idea that you should lower volume but keep intensity high. So try that before you go off and Mike Boyleize yourself with partial pulls.

I'd say chances are pretty good the ****ed up part is too big a deficit. And not getting enough delicious carbs pre-workout.

Like the idea that "I'm fasted, I do poorly fasted ergo I can't do much today." vs "I can't lift xxx no matter what stimulants/refeeds/etc I take" is significantly different.

If you're losing a lot of weight, and a lot weaker, it should be obv you ****ed up your diet and are taking a scorched earth approach to dieting and culling LBM. ldo. So... stop. Move to maintenance and start over otherwise... lol IMO.

I'm "dieting" and coming off a break, but still manage decent improvement workout to workout. If I found myself losing strength multiple workouts in a row I'd have to figure out wtf is going on as I've ****ed something up.


ETA: Soul, ldo.


Unrelated rage.. Its like the 70sBig post where they take a 34 year old woman and say she's gained 1lbs of LBM per week and lost .4lbs of fat per week. Taking an untrained woman, pumping her with a ****ton of Winstrol and then running it for 7 weeks would be tough to replicate those results. So even if we assume that you're not outright lying (Occam's razor), you're pretending a vast outlier is "normal" when its clearly not representative of anything. I'd be more inclined to believe that you took a woman and bastardized "measurements" without accounting for hormonal fluctuations water weight, and are just an idiot.

This. People should be maintaining strength or at least not losing much at all. Otherwise you are going to lose all the muscle mass as well as fat and hence the point of the bulk then cut is pretty much nullified.

I vote for too much volume and not enough sleep

Yeah probably better bets, especially the volume.

Its all interdependent. Sleep/Physical stress/metal stress/caloric deficit/etc all lie on a continuum. If you sleep like ****, you can't sustain a similar caloric deficit/volume in your workouts.

Given the information something is wrong. What exactly is going to be something he likely knows unless you really ****ed up, then you should probably burn your plan to the ground and start over.

Mods!

I bet you could take kyle on with that nasty-ass haircut you're sporting lately, I'd run if I met you in a dark alley.


And you'd never catch up.

I pipe in with random questions once in a while, and I don't want to start a new thread so I figure I'll ask here. I'm looking to join the military fairly soon. Basic training in 4 months. Right now I'm 5'9 160lbs, 185squat, 195DL, 140BP, 75 Press doing all SS work. (not doing cleans, instead throwing in chinups/pullups every other day.) Should I continue on my SS work and bulk up? Totally Diff program? Assuming you all had 4 months to train to be ready for basic training, how would you devote your limited time?

Thug Bubbles (or something) is also joining the military. Search for his posts for advice. But basically, you need to address the desires of the military's tests for fitness. Which are stupid. But trying to explain to them that they are stupid is even dumber. The military does not care how much you can squat/DL/clean/press. They care about how fast you run 2 miles, how many push-ups/pull-ups you can do, and stuff like that.

link pls

skimming that 70s article the first time i detached the initial argument from the story for some reason. pretty hilarious actually.

What are the fitness requirement tests? Probably pull ups right? You should focus on things that will improve those scores.

yeah i gave up on doing things right and started cardiotarding every day :-/

it sucks but that's what they want

I didn't really lose 55 lbs, in that I could have easily done more if I wanted. I dropped it way down in anticipation of my diet. It actually didn't feel all that heavy.

And the weight loss numbers are a bit deceptive. All last week, I had been deliberately slacking off because I knew we were going to start a Biggest Loser contest at work on Friday, so I didn't lose anything all last week. Then over the weekend after the weigh-in I lost almost 2 lbs, combined with a Saturday workout and not being a youngster any more, voila: soreness. I'm usually a bit sore after a workout, I just wasn't expecting that much soreness. Next workout I'm going to try sets of 3 (instead of my normal 5) with the same weight and ease back into it.

meh. doing 100 push ups must take a decent amount of strength.

although the minimums are lol.

So you're fudging numbers to be a drama queen?

wtf?

my squat was down over 100lb last week. this week it is back to normal.

47 push ups in 2 minutes is hard

minimum is 42 for the youngest category. graduating basic requires 35.

my max is 47, and i'm a fatty.

edit: just grinded out 48 in 1:15. had 30 done in 30sec or so.

The best thing about not squatting for 4 months and starting again 25% lower than your PR is that your form is abso-f*cking-lutely rock f*cking solid. F*ck you 70s big. At least my squats are legal.

I like this singles idea, going to give it a try.

In 4 months of training for it that number should be destroyed. You should also easily be able to do 15+ pull ups (as long as not a fatty obv).