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Old 03-10-2010, 02:59 PM   #826
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

MM,

Watch more streaming porn. Following this flame war has to be the worst possible use of time in the history of mankind.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:04 PM   #827
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Thremp's just jealous because he's not involved.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:08 PM   #828
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Eh. Its like playing pickup basketball or sweating pickup basketball. Like participating in GheyFit Games or watching the GheyFit games.

The basketball analogy sucks. Its more like scouting the pickup basketball games to see who has a better hands rating and TS% so you can pick him for your backup PG.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:08 PM   #829
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

Ahahaha.

Lyle has now called Rip "a slackjawed fagg-t".




Thremp - I dunno. Clearly you are correct that I have too much free time on my hands, but I think we are witnessing a genuinely fascinating implosion here. I'm kind of puzzled you don't find this more entertaining.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:18 PM   #830
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He is sad that he will soon have to put Lyle down, as he no longer qualifies as an elite troll.
 
Old 03-10-2010, 03:21 PM   #831
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:27 PM   #832
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Ahahaha.

Lyle has now called Rip "a slackjawed fagg-t".




Thremp - I dunno. Clearly you are correct that I have too much free time on my hands, but I think we are witnessing a genuinely fascinating implosion here. I'm kind of puzzled you don't find this more entertaining.
Okay. Now my interest is piqued. Anytime two grown men can argue over the internets and resort to calling each variants of gay, its popcorn time.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:30 PM   #833
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Well I mean it's not like Lyle is a random internet poster. He's a leading diet guru whose work has figured prominently in this forum.

If I had posted "Lolz, Obama just called Palin a **** on CSPAN" would that be more interesting to you than the same comment coming from a random internet poster?
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:33 PM   #834
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Well it was just Lyle being Lyle, but this has taken a turn for the awesome since... this morning.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:01 PM   #835
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Wow. This is all very interesting watching the great flame war of 2010 starting but it kinda sucks in a way. Lyle and Rip are some of few people that speak any sense on tham thar internet. I doubt it will do either of them any favours.
Having said that, the cancelled Rip/Lyle interview would've been gold. I can just see it now. Rip pressing Lyle overhead once he tried to call him out. Alas, not to be
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:06 PM   #836
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so where is it at now? Lyle has admitted he was wrong, but is still being a ****? Or just admitted that the kids squat form was good without conceding the LBM gains?
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:14 PM   #837
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so where is it at now? Lyle has admitted he was wrong, but is still being a ****? Or just admitted that the kids squat form was good without conceding the LBM gains?
Lyle's previous posts were pretty interesting. Published private emails a few posts beforehand.

http://www.startingstrength.com/reso...1&postcount=43

I think thats the end of hostilities and possible deletion of some threads. It's in nobodies interest that this carries on.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:17 PM   #838
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I don't care who wins this internet pissing contest. I've never even read an article by Lyle. But I have to say that it took less than a minute of reading his website to spot the warning signs of an emotionally ******ed man-child. This spectacular public meltdown seems unsurprising.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:18 PM   #839
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ya they're both looking like idiots, it was only a matter of time til they blew up though, two hard-headed guys who feel like they know it all yet have differing opinions.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:23 PM   #840
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I really don't see how people think Lyle comes out "ahead" here. Rip seems very level-headed if not stubborn for wanting to defend his integrity (which seems fine to me).

ETA: As far as Mark saying "**** them, at least they buy our books," I don't see what's so disingenuous about that. No one likes the idiots in the forum like nisora. Whatever. Lyle is ******ed.
 
Old 03-10-2010, 04:28 PM   #841
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ya they're both looking like idiots,
Maybe I'm biased but this strikes me as a false symmetry.

The way I see it Rippetoe has conducted himself very well and Lyle has had a complete meltdown.

Keep in mind Rippetoe has said nothing about this whatsoever since posting the squat videos (and there were no true insults in that post).


Also Rip's remark in the PM was obviously referring to the people on his forum who are idiots. The suggestion that Rip actually views his forum posters as a whole that way is really low and disingenuous by Lyle.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:28 PM   #842
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lyle bringing up the squats was like the prosecution trying to get the glove to fit OJ.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:30 PM   #843
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the "idiots" are specifically the people who either started the "lyle hates on rip" thread or posted screen shots of lyle "hating" on rip. fwiw nisora wasn't one of them.

rip looks like he did nothing wrong now, and relative to what lyle has done, it may as well be nothing. but back when the issue first came up and lyle adamantly stated the body comp results were wrong (or misleading, or whatever), rip should have wondered why lyle would say that, and they should have talked at that point. rip had a part in that not happening, whether it was plainly not caring or actually avoiding it, either of which combined with lyle's internet persona would lead to some kind of lyle blowup.

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Old 03-10-2010, 04:31 PM   #844
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The way I see it Rippetoe has conducted himself very well and Lyle has had a complete meltdown.
I 100% agree with this conclusion.

Rippetoe cancelling the interview is absolutely fine in my opinion, and offering to reimburse Lyle for his costs is completely unnecessary (IMO) but very professional.

Lyle directly called Rippetoe a liar and assaulted his integrity, then insulted his ability to coach Zach wrt the squat. All of his claims have been debunked with the possible exception of the LBM gains, which Rip very specifically defined as measured by calipers using his methods that he's experienced in - Rip did not definitively state that it was a fact, only that he measured it and that these measurements come with the usual scientific error associated with them.
 
Old 03-10-2010, 04:37 PM   #845
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lol'd but you need to chop lyle into that pic instead of the chick
Incorrect. A+ usage. I'm so glad I just happened to pause that interview at that time to see to something else, only to come back to the joy of a perfect Rip still.

Just wow at Lyle. Guy is delusional. Lol @ fkd my travel plans. Oh no a day 2 hours from dallas. Lol @ just not eating your crow and moving on.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:38 PM   #846
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Dammit to hell! I was just about to ask Lyle the best way to do SS lifts on a RFL. Don't think i'll bother asking now. What you guys think?

Keep BP, P, SQ, Pull Ups and swap deadlifts and powercleans for rows and something else maybe? Sound good?
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:41 PM   #847
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Dammit to hell! I was just about to ask Lyle the best way to do SS lifts on a RFL. Don't think i'll bother asking now. What you guys think?

Keep BP, P, SQ, Pull Ups and swap deadlifts and powercleans for rows and something else maybe? Sound good?

Rip would have hated that question anyway.

The main thing is you are supposed to cut volume by 1/3rd, so either 2 worksets MWF, or 3 worksets MF.

As for the whole PC/row/DL thing just do whatever you want, the important point is your recovery will be greatly inhibited. So don't overdo it. Definitely don't DL twice in a week imo.

In my experience on a PSMF you should just pray you don't lose much strength rather than try to make gains.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:47 PM   #848
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Dammit to hell! I was just about to ask Lyle the best way to do SS lifts on a RFL. Don't think i'll bother asking now. What you guys think?

Keep BP, P, SQ, Pull Ups and swap deadlifts and powercleans for rows and something else maybe? Sound good?
It's been asked before on lyle's forum. He recommended SS twice a week with 1-2x5. I'd swap DLs for RDLs/SLDLs, cause yeah they're waaaay too taxing.
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On second thought, the Lyle version of that pic is quite great.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:48 PM   #850
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Lyle made a cascade of horrible business decisions. And even his attempt to save some face is just ridiculous. His insults and attacks were very direct and unambiguous. Now saying that it's just the fanbois' fault who provoced him is pretty weak. After all he could have locked and deleted the threads on his board or just keep the volume down in the first place. I have no sympathy for Lyle whatsoever.
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