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Old 03-03-2010, 04:14 PM   #226
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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Old 03-03-2010, 04:14 PM   #227
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

the last two point were absolutely conflating correlation and causation
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:14 PM   #228
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The people that need to gorge themselves are the idiots who weigh 140 pounds at 5'11" and complain they don't gain any weight.

For people who are reasonably-sized (like yourself), a small surplus for 30 days is probably worth doing before you go hog-wild. And you can eat McDoubles while doing this.
I've always considered myself a skinny guy but I guess the gut has got me out of that category. And I pretty much look that same as I did a month ago, I feel better though and stronger.

I think I've been eating at a surplus for 30 days now, I mean I sure hope so, I've been eating alot of **** bacon and chicken.

So you say keep eatin as much as I can ie 'hog wild'? thx
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:18 PM   #229
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no he was saying eat a small surplus and see if you keep making progress. if not then go hog wild maybe
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:18 PM   #230
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this is a health and fitness forum, yet i'm getting ripped by people who are overweight and would get beat by most girls in a mile run. you'd think this was a strictly bodybuilding forum because 25% bf, 10:00 mile, and 0 pullups is completely ok and even looked up to apparently as long as you can squat 300 pounds. you'd be completely laughed at by anyone who isn't a bodybuilder for claiming that to be healthy, fit, or even desirable
Nycballer, I once had the same problem with this forum that you did. Then I accepted that despite the name of the forum, this is NOT a H&F forum. It is an intro to powerlifting forum. Once you accept that then it will be much easier to reconcile the viewpoints of most of the posters in this forum on various topics.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:24 PM   #231
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the last two point were absolutely conflating correlation and causation
When you are dealing with health and biological systems ultimate "causation" is pretty much impossible to determine because the systems are too complex. However, regardless of "causation" numerous epidemiological studies have proven without a doubt that all else being equal obesity correlates with poorer health and that for an obese person in poor health losing fat weight will improve health.

And the most efficient way to become obese is to consume fatty acids at an excess of metabolic needs, although obesity can also be accomplished by overconsumption of sugars or proteins, albeit less efficiently.

If you want to get into "causation" there is a lot of current lipid research studying the role of adipocytes as endocrine systems and their role as active players in effecting metabolic (and other) systems leading towards poor health. However, there is still much to be learned and the causation is nowhere near as well understood as the correlation.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:26 PM   #232
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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the last two point were absolutely conflating correlation and causation
damn you beat me to "post hoc ergo propter hoc"
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:26 PM   #233
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

I propose no one respond to jdock's posts apart from saying



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Old 03-03-2010, 04:33 PM   #234
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Can we add "in tha houseeeeeeeee...." and/or random rap lyrics after.... like:



jdooooooooooooccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Up in the mornin with the rest of these rookies. You out here sellin them dimes *****, I'm out here sellin them cookies.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:41 PM   #235
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

jdock,

Your previous post (#225), and the fact that we know how it is filled with logical and factual inconsistencies, is a testament to this indeed being a Health and Fitness forum.

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Old 03-03-2010, 04:41 PM   #236
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jaaaaaayyyyyyyddddoooooooooocccccckkkkkkkk, noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm imagining a mother holding her dying son in her arms as she screams this at the top of her lungs, with other friends and family members crying and sobbing.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:42 PM   #237
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Can we add "in tha houseeeeeeeee...." and/or random rap lyrics after.... like:



jdooooooooooooccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Up in the mornin with the rest of these rookies. You out here sellin them dimes *****, I'm out here sellin them piparkoogid.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:45 PM   #238
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the part about fasting before a blood test was classic.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:47 PM   #239
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I also liked how "at an excess of metabolic needs" was thrown in there.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:52 PM   #240
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jdock, go back to your thread you promised to limit your trolling to. Otherwise have a ban.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:06 PM   #241
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lol 70s big

Linear progression does not mean "raise your squat by 5 pounds, decrease depth by 1 inch"
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:07 PM   #242
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Hey jayyyyyydoooockkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk in the place I'm callin' out to ya
There never was a H&F kid truer and bluer
There's more to him than you'll ever know
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:10 PM   #243
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lol 70s big

Linear progression does not mean "raise your squat by 5 pounds, decrease depth by 1 inch"

You peak with a sick 1 RM walkout brah.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:19 PM   #244
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lol 70s big

Linear progression does not mean "raise your squat by 5 pounds, decrease depth by 1 inch"
looks like the dude has been high all along. so he's linearly progressing his partials. the last video on his account though is 3x5x415 which does appear to be even higher. looks like now we're entering the raise by 5, shallower by 1 territory. soon we'll have 3x5x450 4" partials.

http://vimeo.com/user3215665
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:20 PM   #245
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Good day today:

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3x5x205 (PR)
Bench
3x5x185
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5x320 (PR)

weight 151 at 5'11''. Thin is in IMO
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:32 PM   #246
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Those look like KyleC squats.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:38 PM   #247
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jdock, go back to your thread you promised to limit your trolling to. Otherwise have a ban.
You locked the thread this argument would have fit into. I guess I could put it into the my log (which I have not updated in 4 months), but that doesn't seem necessary.

I made my point and it does not seem anyone really disagrees with anything I said, so I am sure the matter will just die on its own.

I do not even mind if everyone responds to my posts with nonsensical rhymes. I will even complement anyone who comes up with something witty (hasn't happened yet).
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:43 PM   #248
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"[fat] won't (by itself) make you fat."

"This post is pretty much wrong on every point... the most efficient way of becoming obese is to consume excess amounts of fatty acids."

good point jdock. you're really delving into some complex stuff, here.

yes, everyone agrees with you.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:46 PM   #249
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

AC's latest video was of solid depth. Everyone else... questionable.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:47 PM   #250
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AC's latest video was of solid depth. Everyone else... questionable.
yes. i was going to mention this. a legit 495x3.
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