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That is not anyone's idea of fitness. I refuse to believe you are this dense.

Only bodybuilders prefer large muscular men to skinny ones? You cannot actually believe that.

whats your defintion of skinny? most people would say some stick kid who's never been inside a gym. the comparison is large with a gut vs lean and defined

03-02-2010 , 09:30 PM

#127

nycballer

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

Some of us are walking around at just over 10% at 195 lbs.

i don't doubt that hence the word most not and all

03-02-2010 , 09:30 PM

#128

Thremp

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Okay. So clearly 3 people are representative of the entire forum at large. And you apply that label to now "most" of the people posting. Are you aware of which logs have people around 15% bf or under? I can think of more than you're listing for fatbodies and make conjecture on others that are right around there.

But again, what does that even have to do with anything? Generalizations are the playground of the idiot.

03-02-2010 , 09:30 PM

#129

nycballer

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

That is not anyone's idea of fitness. I refuse to believe you are this dense.

propbet?

03-02-2010 , 09:31 PM

#130

Thremp

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Originally Posted by nycballer

whats your defintion of skinny? most people would say some stick kid who's never been inside a gym. the comparison is large with a gut vs lean and defined

More about how you're lean and defined, but in reality just have no appreciable amounts of LBM.

03-02-2010 , 09:33 PM

#131

Ra_Z_Boy

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Originally Posted by nycballer

propbet?

That you are that dense? Nah....

03-02-2010 , 09:36 PM

#132

wannabecardiotard

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man, i wonder how much nycballer would cry after my fatass crushed him on a bike ride.

03-02-2010 , 09:37 PM

#133

MI101

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Originally Posted by Spenda

all this pull up talk has got me thinking

if you could pick one exercise to test overall strength, what would it be? How about a 1rm test and another for max reps, I guess that'd be chins or push-ups.

Deadlifts for 1RM?

for pure strength, i'd pick overhead squat.

for fitness, i'd go army PFT.

03-02-2010 , 09:37 PM

#134

Thremp

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Originally Posted by wannabecardiotard

man, i wonder how much nycballer would cry after my fatass crushed him on a bike ride.

He'd probably brag about being able to squat 14 ounces or some equally trivial fitness goal.

03-02-2010 , 09:40 PM

#135

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1) nycballer is banned for a week. I'd have banned him after his first post but I was working for the past 3 hours and I thought he would listen to instructions. Today is the first time I've ever seen his posts.

2) No one gets banned for arguing. People get banned for completely derailing discussion with pointless attacks and trolling (not funny trolling). And he didn't even get banned for that (well just one thread).

03-02-2010 , 09:40 PM

#136

SmileyEH

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Thread title stays BITCHES.

03-02-2010 , 09:41 PM

#137

wannabecardiotard

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boom goes the banhammer

03-02-2010 , 09:45 PM

#138

Eagle314

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damn why'd nycballer have to get banned before telling us his awesome curl and fly machine routine to get so ripped and cut and have a 1.2 BW max bench

03-02-2010 , 09:46 PM

#139

Kedu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thremp

Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?

03-02-2010 , 09:48 PM

#140

Thremp

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Originally Posted by Kedu

Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?

I doubt anyone gets to SS as the program as written by Mark R. consists of a caloric surplus. So its kinda absurd to think you diet down with it. Even if you accept the weight lifting framework separate from the diet, linear progression halts quickly, even in beginners, when coupled with a caloric deficit. So the question is immensely flawed. I'm not sure if you honestly don't know wtf you're talking about or are trolling. But this question makes no sense.

03-02-2010 , 09:50 PM

#141

00Snitch

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lol this thread. im going to a party.

03-02-2010 , 09:52 PM

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Jaysick88

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Originally Posted by Kedu

Who do you think has had the most success getting to less than 15% with a substantial amount of lbm on SS?

I stayed well under 15% while gaining 20 pounds. I probably started at sub 8 though. (Caliper tests were always around 3 lol)

03-02-2010 , 09:53 PM

#143

Kedu

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Originally Posted by Thremp

People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.

03-02-2010 , 09:56 PM

#144

Thremp

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Originally Posted by Kedu

People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.

Can you give an example of someone cutting and doing SS, since it happens "all the time"?

03-02-2010 , 09:57 PM

#145

Kedu

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Originally Posted by Jaysick88

I stayed well under 15% while gaining 20 pounds. I probably started at sub 8 though. (Caliper tests were always around 3 lol)

I actually thought of your log but was pretty sure you did some non ss stuff and cardio. Also your number's are epic for weighing so little.

03-02-2010 , 10:00 PM

#146

Kedu

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Originally Posted by Thremp

Can you give an example of someone cutting and doing SS, since it happens "all the time"?

Prediction confirmed obv, moving on now.

03-02-2010 , 10:01 PM

#147

Parlay Slow

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Originally Posted by MI101

for pure strength, i'd pick overhead squat.

wow no

03-02-2010 , 10:04 PM

#148

Thremp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kedu

People are told to cut while doing SS all the time... What about bulking then cutting on SS? I'm going to go on a limb and say you won't come up with an example.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thremp

Can you give an example of someone cutting and doing SS, since it happens "all the time"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kedu

Prediction confirmed obv, moving on now.

Wat?

Are you really trying to argue that a novice who starts from a random arbitrary bodyfat percentage, and is then instructed to "cut" and you want him to reach <15% bodyfat? You do realize that caloric deficit and recovery are inversely correlated. The more deficit, the less recovery. So it'd be amazingly difficult for even the untrained to lose appreciable amounts of bodyfat while increasing weight every workout.

You don't understand what you're trying to discuss.

Last edited by Thremp; 03-02-2010 at 10:11 PM.