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Originally Posted by loco
Zzzzzzz.
Been telling this guy he trains too hard and I think I came up with the 135 hr number for him years ago because we have the same exact hr data. My training is even lower now, closer to 130.
But here is the thing bro, nobody ain't got time to train like a pro. So you do your thing. Sure we all got gains on the table by hitting more AET(the first rise in lactate) and lower. But hard pass on training anything over 8 hours per week. That interferes with your family and hobbies.
So point is, fack Seiler and 5 hour bullshiet. You are an anaerobic monster who can generate 20 mmol lactate when aerobic guys like me and floppy can't break 10 mmol. Your breaking point where your split should approach 80/20 is probably 6 or 7 hours.
So unless you magically came up with 10+ hours of training, you do you.
We are recreational hobby endurance joggers/rowers. I realize you want a record but is 8-10+ hours of endurance a week reasonable? And you got a couple or more hours of lifting too.
We all gravitate to slower, the faster we get, but we never reach pro status because we don't have 10 hours a week for some bullshiet that doesn't pay and we may even damage our health with too much cardio.
So I would make sure your coach understands you have a life and program appropriately and not just keep adding more <aet work til your wife and kids dump your arse.
yes, I think what you say is all very accurate/true and i also recognise that you would have been aware of what I'm just understanding/learning for a long while while.
I am new to having a cardio/conditioning focus (or at least taking it seriously) and it's taken me a while to get to the stage where I'm opening my mind beyond my originally set beliefs.....which historically were built on 'go hard every time'.
your point about how much of my life I/we all should be devoting to this is correct too. Both from a family/business/life balance POV but also an injury prevention perspective....I have to remember that I'm a 51 yr old small business owner and not some 22yr old dreaming of the Olympics.
I'm prepared to give up more time and focus to this over the next 4 months to do this (potentially with a 'hang up my competitive oar' at the end of it). and I do think upping the volume will help my 2k - it's clear that my longer distances are the weak points and that if i improve my endurance, my time should come down. But of course, it still has to be within reason and it needs to be smart so that I can withstand it physically and also mentally. And I have to say, having trained 8x a week for the past two weeks it is a big commitment and I don't think I want to do it for 4 months.
Plus, while I may get used to it, I do worry that going slower is batshit boring and I'm not sure I want to spend 4 months paddling around like an old woman.
I'm having a conversation with him tomorrow that will work through what we do post next weekend's 1k. I wonder if fewer, longer rows might be the answer. I'd rather do 3x60-70min UT2s than 5 40-50min ones. Then, if it's 2 HIT sessions and 2 weights, that 7 sessions over 5 days with 2 days rest and I hope that's managable.