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04-25-2021 , 06:37 PM
3 days of drinking and bad sleeps does this to resting heart rate

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04-25-2021 , 06:52 PM
I went teetotal in February 2019, as it was the only way I could hit my target calories in the bonkers unpleasant bit of my diet. (I did 1,200 calories a day for a couple of months. I don't recommend it.)

I never quite got around to starting drinking again. The main determinant of my RHR now seems to be if I'm on holiday or not - Fitbit reckons it drops to around 45 on holiday; but it is around 50 normally. I have no idea how much it fell whilst I lost the weight, and how much no alcohol contributed to that fall. So as anecdotes go, it may need a bit of work.
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04-25-2021 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
20 spm is kind of classically on the border between UT2 and UT1; UT2 is generally ~16-18 spm with a bit of a heavier stroke, and UT1 is ~20-24 and a bit lighter and tappier. Gardner may call this "gray zone" training (i.e. more fatiguing than classical steady state without the benefits associated with getting fully into UT1), but who knows. Stroke rate seems slightly high for what I'd consider UT2, but I don't think it's a huge deal. Any HR data?
I couldn't get the fitbit to refresh at the end of the session - my basement sometimes doesn't have great connectivity on it. My guess would be mid to high 160s but idk.

I deliberately increased the stroke rate and rowed with a shorter stroke after taking inspiration from my buddy who rowed the marathon at 24. I'm clicking buttons basically, but trying different things to see if I can discern an advantage one way or another

although I do think not going beer to wine to scotch 3 nights in succession may be the source of a bigger advantage than some minor technique inputs. one day I'll learn.

Last edited by feel wrath; 04-25-2021 at 10:44 PM.
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04-26-2021 , 05:31 AM
Training

5x5 Press 55kg (supposed to be 57.5 but the ****ing 1.25kg weights have gone missing). Superset with 5x5 Pull Ups
3x7 DB Press 24kg
3x8 Barbell Curl 42.5kg, superset with
3x5 Hammer curl with 16kg DBs
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04-26-2021 , 05:32 AM
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I went teetotal in February 2019, as it was the only way I could hit my target calories in the bonkers unpleasant bit of my diet. (I did 1,200 calories a day for a couple of months. I don't recommend it.)

I never quite got around to starting drinking again. The main determinant of my RHR now seems to be if I'm on holiday or not - Fitbit reckons it drops to around 45 on holiday; but it is around 50 normally. I have no idea how much it fell whilst I lost the weight, and how much no alcohol contributed to that fall. So as anecdotes go, it may need a bit of work.
I'll congratulate you on the bolded rather than give you a cool story bro
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04-26-2021 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
I couldn't get the fitbit to refresh at the end of the session - my basement sometimes doesn't have great connectivity on it. My guess would be mid to high 160s but idk.

I deliberately increased the stroke rate and rowed with a shorter stroke after taking inspiration from my buddy who rowed the marathon at 24. I'm clicking buttons basically, but trying different things to see if I can discern an advantage one way or another

although I do think not going beer to wine to scotch 3 nights in succession may be the source of a bigger advantage than some minor technique inputs. one day I'll learn.
Lol yeah me too; yesterday was more of a struggle than it should have been.

Re: stroke length, my stroke does tend to shorten a bit as I increase stroke rate from UT2; it's still a work in progress because I'm trying to curb overcompression, but I'm averaging around the 1.36 m length at UT1 and above vs 1.42-1.45 for UT2, so a little variation seems like a thing.
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04-26-2021 , 10:50 PM
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3 days of drinking and bad sleeps does this to resting heart rate

Mine does that too a tiny bit when I am in Vegas:
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04-26-2021 , 11:34 PM
Jesus

well played. just booze and no sleep or some PEDs as well?
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04-26-2021 , 11:58 PM
Travelled to Melbourne for work today. (1st business flight in 17 months - used to average 4 a month.

Hotels are cheap right now so staying in 5 star which means a decent hotel gym with free weights abs heavy dumbbells

5x5 Bench 90kg
3x8 DB Bench 30kg db
3x10 Close Grip bench 70kg, superset with
3x10 lay pull downs at 55kg

I saw an erg in the cardio room so may get in there tomorrow morning if I wake early
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04-27-2021 , 12:36 AM
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Jesus

well played. just booze and no sleep or some PEDs as well?
Just booze and no sleep. Don't want to come off as a braggart, but my blood pressure is also pretty impressive. Normally runs 110/70. Was 162/85 earlier today.
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04-27-2021 , 01:21 AM
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Just booze and no sleep. Don't want to come off as a braggart, but my blood pressure is also pretty impressive. Normally runs 110/70. Was 162/85 earlier today.

Note to self: remove Fitbit from wrist before next Vegas trip
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04-27-2021 , 02:06 AM
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Note to self: remove Fitbit from wrist before next Vegas trip
Take into account that I don't drink like an ex-rugby player. I drink like an ex-goalkeeper.
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04-27-2021 , 02:50 AM
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Take into account that I don't drink like an ex-rugby player. I drink like an ex-goalkeeper.



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04-27-2021 , 06:27 PM
snuck a quick early session in at the gym and managed an early sweat but not much more

20 mins fast on a stationary bike and then 10 mins on the erg when it became available - average 1.55.6/500

will probably classify it as a ‘recovery day’.

Actually got a good night’s sleep in a hotel room for one of the first times I can remember
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04-29-2021 , 01:36 AM
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6x500m 3.30r

1.40.3
1.40.3
1.40.3
1.40.1
1.40.1
1.40.1

1.40.2 ave which is 1.1sec per 500 faster than when I did it last 4 weeks ago

caveat is that I only completed 6 splits. This wasn't necessarily an exhaustion thing...the last two would have hurt but I'd have got them done...it was more that I'm planning a 2k PR attempt on Saturday and I didn't want to wear my body down too much. was tempted to finish the last two off, just to log the complete session but think it was wise to stop when I did

very happy with the session though


7x500m, 3.30r (was supposed to be 8, but got confused and thought I was done)

1.39.6 sr 31
1.39.5 sr 31
1.39.5 sr 33
1.39.5 sr 32
1.39.5 sr 33
1.39.5 sr 33
1.39.5 sr 34

ave 1.39.5 sr 32 which is 0.7secs/500m faster than the last time i did this

slightly annoyed by missing the 8th one, but looking back I only did 6 intervals last time so this counts as a pretty decent PR. the last one would have hurt but no way I'd have let myself fall slower than 1.40

also felt great to go very hard on a rowing session...don't feel like I've done that for a while. Have had three sober nights and two successive good sleeps and am feeling capable again.

plan from here is undecided. There's a small possibility I might go for a 1k pr on the weekend but more likely I'm gonna aim for another week of clean living, attack another couple of row workouts and then go for a fast 1k next weekend.

Last edited by feel wrath; 04-29-2021 at 01:51 AM.
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04-29-2021 , 02:30 AM
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Have had three sober nights and two successive good sleeps and am feeling capable again.
Similarly, I did not drink at all today (other than a 6-pack this evening to kick-start my kidneys, which doesn't count since it was purely for medical purposes to recover from celebrating my favorite person's 50th birthday yesterday).
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04-29-2021 , 07:19 AM
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Similarly, I did not drink at all today (other than a 6-pack this evening to kick-start my kidneys, which doesn't count since it was purely for medical purposes to recover from celebrating my favorite person's 50th birthday yesterday).

you’ll need something tomorrow to ease yourself softly back into sobriety as well. Maybe a bottle or red?
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04-29-2021 , 07:49 AM
That's amazingly impressive; great work!
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04-29-2021 , 11:07 AM
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you’ll need something tomorrow to ease yourself softly back into sobriety as well. Maybe a bottle or red?
That was what the 6 pack was for. Next drinking day is the last weekend in May.
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04-29-2021 , 05:43 PM
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That's amazingly impressive; great work!
thumb.

have you ever rowed a fast (or fastish) half marathon? I got the C2 'challenge' email for the start of the new rowing year and I thought I might give it a go on Sunday. But given I've never rowed a fast 10k and the longest I've ever rowed is 60 mins, I'm not sure what pace to go at.

what's your best guess for what a 21.1k time trial time might be for you and how you'd pace it?
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04-29-2021 , 06:32 PM
That's crazy man, excrossfitter gonna keep crossfitting. A half marathon in the garage all by your lonesome? Kill me first. Somebody would have to pay me 5000 usd to run a half marathon close to race pace on my tread at 71F. Maybe 500 usd if it's 45F in my house.

As an easy aerobic workout ut2 style, then it's okay. Especially if the weather is cooling down, down under.
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04-29-2021 , 07:00 PM
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That's crazy man, excrossfitter gonna keep crossfitting. A half marathon in the garage all by your lonesome? Kill me first. Somebody would have to pay me 5000 usd to run a half marathon close to race pace on my tread at 71F. Maybe 500 usd if it's 45F in my house.

As an easy aerobic workout ut2 style, then it's okay. Especially if the weather is cooling down, down under.

it's fine man...some people have more intestinal fortitude than others.

one day when you fully commit to being the fittest person in h&F, you'll be able to summon up the gumption to do these things. I'm older than you, so maybe you'll grow into the teak hard fearlessness
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04-29-2021 , 07:03 PM
*also..."thought I might give it a go"...is not the full fw guarantee.

$1.40 60 min UT2
$4.30 half marathon
$5.50 wakes up half drunk from beer, wine and scotch combo, does 45 min slow walk and eats crossiants and baguettes for breakfast before buying some more booze, roasting an eye fillet and drinking from 2-10pm

*also also....most likely would do it fastish/in UT 2 ish fashion, but still need the Monte-seer's pov on pacing
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04-29-2021 , 07:07 PM
*in B4 bwslim moves all his clients' money onto option 3
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04-29-2021 , 07:11 PM
Oh I dig deep and can even summon the dead. But only when it really matters, race day in front of the peoples and where I can hone in on a challenger.

I use to do it before all by my lonesome on the track, but realized that was flash in the pan type training. Time trials blow. Pass. Race day only baby.
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