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09-08-2014 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamKB
i bet that if you stick to the 6-8 rep range, but just keep adding weight (like in a linear progression fashion), you will be able to do 30 pull-ups with bodyweight faster than the program.. plus, you'll be bigger and look more muscular when you're done, too.
Cool, thx for the pointers, it is indeed a tempting route, Im still not sure I want to be "bigger", I would definitely love bigger arms, chest etc, but not if I start sacrificing functionality*. I guess both are achievable with a proper and well rounded program(yoga, pilates, core, etc) For now I actually like being leaner *tyty


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Originally Posted by TeamKB
just curious, what does your off table work consist of?
last 12 months Ive watched 150 vids maybe closer to 200, all from Iveyleague but now Im up to date and only Zaza and Apo have good content now a days. Mostly I review my last session 9+9- bb hhs, with equilab for interesting or trouble spots, then review those HH with the backer and a few very competent players and always trying to balance the game plan

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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
Perhaps it was already discussed in here but the program doesn't call for any weighted reps does it?

I guess I can't really say I've increased my ability too much in the last year but before that for a few months I did mostly weighted work for medium reps - 5-7 reps, and afterwards it seemed to really make doing high rep bw sets much easier.
no it doesnt :/, damn it man you guys are really making a case
how many did you get to do!?


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Originally Posted by Montecore
Agree, weighted work is pretty key. Ladders also worked pretty well for me, too.

starting with how much!? 10 pounds 3x8 3 times a week adding 5 pounds each weak, something like that?
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09-08-2014 , 04:50 PM
Well, the thing is I don't know what my max was before I started doing weighted work last summer. But it seemed like it helped and I did 17 chinups a year ago. This year I only did 16 (at the state fair, lol), and, tbh my form could be stricter.

Anyway, the biggest difference in my memory was that last year I felt I just shot up on maybe the first ten reps, like out of a cannon. Now, maybe it is b/c I was less weight a year ago but I think it was also b/c I hadn't done any bw chins really, I was only doing +10 to +25lbs reps. The last year I've gotten away from weighted work until recently and felt I haven't progressed much.

Although, I did use a weight belt yesterday for the first time and was able to do a rep at +90 so I still have a pretty good baseline, . But if I decide to concentrate on chinups/pullups I'd probably make my core routine weighted once or twice a week and then do other days of bodyweight stuff not to failure. Actually, what I'd start with is doing pullups instead of chinups. The difference between them for me is enormous, makes me think I'm really just doing curl-ups, b/c I'm all biceps, lol.

Please keep in mind I'm just making this up . Also, Evoken and RealBusto do a lot of weighted work and they are likely the pullups champs here. FakeBusto seems to be doing plenty of weighted work too and he seems like he may also be able to do a ton of pullups.
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09-08-2014 , 05:01 PM
Cool, should really try to visit more of their logs, but its usually about things I dont really know so cant really follow.. .thx for the pointers dude lml

I think its pretty common for chinups to be easier, since most people have stronger biceps, that makes a case for doing more pullups
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09-08-2014 , 08:16 PM
This program is basically bull****(not in the sense that its bad but in the sense that its false advertising and I'd lay a heavy price that the guy who wrote it can't do 50 proper pullups).

Side note: it seems like it is common advice to start doing 10-15 reps and then add weight- no one ever says wait until you can bench or squat the bar for 10-15 reps before adding weight and think pullups should be no different.

The most I had ever done was about 21, and could only do about 18 at the time and got up to ~30 with about 6-8 months of weighted work(I've been injured the last few months but aim to do 40 by next Summer)
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09-08-2014 , 09:56 PM
This timex fellow seems to have some solid advice and can actually do 20+ pullups. So you should probably listen to him. You probably will get better at poker too*.

*maybe
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09-09-2014 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by timex
This program is basically bull****(not in the sense that its bad but in the sense that its false advertising and I'd lay a heavy price that the guy who wrote it can't do 50 proper pullups).

Side note: it seems like it is common advice to start doing 10-15 reps and then add weight- no one ever says wait until you can bench or squat the bar for 10-15 reps before adding weight and think pullups should be no different.

The most I had ever done was about 21, and could only do about 18 at the time and got up to ~30 with about 6-8 months of weighted work(I've been injured the last few months but aim to do 40 by next Summer)
Id been trying to increase my reps for a while and this program came up, Idk whats right or whats wrong tho, but the only fact is that no one knows for sure, so its worth a good try + its given me some kind of rhythm

program takes about 3 months to complete so things are not gonna happen over night, Im not defending the program just trying to stay neutral.

Another interesting thing about the program is the progression in which it increases the repetitions, it does look like its pulling them out of thin air at times, but still feels like its spending enough time building them over all.

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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
This timex fellow seems to have some solid advice and can actually do 20+ pullups. So you should probably listen to him. You probably will get better at poker too*.

*maybe

Consensus seems like I should be adding weight, thats for sure cant really complain cause IVe gotten a lot of good advice, so even if its proven not to work, its getting me in the right direction.

I do think that its not time to give up on the program
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09-09-2014 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Don Melchor
Id been trying to increase my reps for a while and this program came up, Idk whats right or whats wrong tho, but the only fact is that no one knows for sure, so its worth a good try + its given me some kind of rhythm

program takes about 3 months to complete so things are not gonna happen over night, Im not defending the program just trying to stay neutral.

Another interesting thing about the program is the progression in which it increases the repetitions, it does look like its pulling them out of thin air at times, but still feels like its spending enough time building them over all.
If you think about it from the perspective of the website developer: if people had succeeded at this- would you not want to post testimonials/videos/links to people who have completed it?

Youtubing it reveals no one who has posted videos of themselves completing this challenge. The handful of videos I found of people doing 50+ pullups all have a physique that no one would get after a few months and a home pullup bar.

I still think the program is fine and likely designed by someone who at least works out- its just that their goal is to get clicks on their website rather than to get customer success.
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09-09-2014 , 11:53 AM
Just speaking for myself but at ~30 chins I pretty much completely stopped making progress so 50 pullups seems insane. OTOH I never trained max chinups and I guess you'd be very happy with "only" 30.

I mostly do weighted chins nowadays and sure it helped my bw chins a lot but I wouldn't go as far as to say that's a better way than just doing them unweighted if the only goal is to increase your max rep - what evidence do you have KB? I just think when you get into those really high rep ranges muscular endurance is more important than strength.
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09-09-2014 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by timex
If you think about it from the perspective of the website developer: if people had succeeded at this- would you not want to post testimonials/videos/links to people who have completed it?

Youtubing it reveals no one who has posted videos of themselves completing this challenge. The handful of videos I found of people doing 50+ pullups all have a physique that no one would get after a few months and a home pullup bar.

I still think the program is fine and likely designed by someone who at least works out- its just that their goal is to get clicks on their website rather than to get customer success.
yeah I agree for sure, not one person on youtube has even mentioned this program, which raises red flags*, but "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" kinda thing!?

Maybe the program is to long and people dont complete it or w/e reasons... The site is kinda dead and nobody is talking about so it definitely makes you wonder




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Originally Posted by Babalatexi
Just speaking for myself but at ~30 chins I pretty much completely stopped making progress so 50 pullups seems insane. OTOH I never trained max chinups and I guess you'd be very happy with "only" 30.

I mostly do weighted chins nowadays and sure it helped my bw chins a lot but I wouldn't go as far as to say that's a better way than just doing them unweighted if the only goal is to increase your max rep - what evidence do you have KB? I just think when you get into those really high rep ranges muscular endurance is more important than strength.
thats a pretty good point, muscular endurance its only gained by lots of repetitions, like running a marathon or an ultra
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09-09-2014 , 08:43 PM
today
3x15 dips
3x10 leg raises touching the bar
3x20 sec L seat holds
3x10 in and out holds
3x15 trapz

x4 100m sprints in uphill
recuperating 250m
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09-12-2014 , 09:42 PM
yesterday went for a 10k run

set 1 8 did 9 cause forgot
set 2 11
set 3 8
set 4 9
set 5 Max (Min 10) did 16.5
felt real good

then 3x15 dips
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09-13-2014 , 01:16 AM
late night sesh

3x40 curls
3x15 concentrated curls
3x12 lat flies
3x15 shoulder press
3x12 inclined flies*
3x16 front delts

15 pound dumbbells


todays sunrise, 5:55am, my front door




and bruce


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09-15-2014 , 11:38 PM
set 1 9
set 2 12
set 3 9
set 4 9
set 5 Max (Min 11) did 14 2/5
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09-17-2014 , 03:12 PM
set 1 9
set 2 13
set 3 9
set 4 9
set 5 Max (Min 12) did 19 couldve done 20

1h run later
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09-17-2014 , 04:00 PM
forgot to say, that I felt really strong, not so light tho, but the difference between a night sesh when Im tired and a morning one when I slept good is abysmal*. kinda ldo but worth mentioning. Form is a lot better than at the end of the last* cycle.


Makes me think that getting to 50 is very doable, there might be a need to repeat a few cycles, who knows, maybe every cycle from now on, but who cares
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09-17-2014 , 05:49 PM
What is your max right now? Just a couple more cycles and you'll be able to do 50?

I thought you did some good/very good amount of pullups but nothing amazing (15-20) before starting?

Also, I just found out my chiropractor (medal winner for wrestling in two separate Olympics) used to do pullups twice a week. 30 reps x 3 sets with strict form. At 230 lbs. What a sicko.
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09-17-2014 , 07:42 PM
idk, havent try max reps since the start(did 12), 4 cycles more and each takes about 2 weeks.

haha yeah, Ive heard those olympians are pretty elite , I would be happy to do 30ish 3 times a week from now on
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09-20-2014 , 03:53 PM
set 1 9
set 2 13
set 3 9
set 4 9
set 5 Max (Min 12) did 16
3x15 dips
3x20sec L seat holds
3x15 trapz
3x20 obliques

1h on the bike

^^^^^did 3rd day of the cycle again lmfao
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09-22-2014 , 10:34 AM
set 1 10
set 2 14
set 3 10
set 4 10
set 5 Max (Min 13) did 15

felt a bit heavy

3x15 dips
3x20 sec L seat holds
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09-27-2014 , 03:11 PM
set 1 11
set 2 15
set 3 10
set 4 10
set 5 Max (Min 13) did 13

+

3x15 dips
3x10 leg raises otp
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09-29-2014 , 04:04 PM
set 1 11
set 2 15
set 3 11
set 4 11
set 5 Max (Min 13) did 13
pretty meh sesh
then went for a 140min ride otb, got a flat tire with 4k left, bad thing is a week ago I lend bicyle pump to my daughter so she could play BBall, she left it outside and Bruce ate it, so last 4k where a hustle....


TOday I got the Garmin Forerunner 910XT, so now Ill be able to start training again, instead of just maintaining... after reading the product description I knew it was love "You swim. You bike. You run. You obsess over data and details. So do we. And we’ve just perfected your new training partner." so Im pretty psyched about being able to swim with a watch


Also got a friend for Bruce on sat
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Her name is Hela <3








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10-01-2014 , 02:10 PM
tue
3x15 dips
3x15 trapz
3x20 sec Lseat holds
3x10 in and outs
3x10 Leg raises

today
set 1 12
set 2 16
set 3 11
set 4 11
set 5 Max (Min 15)

+ a 5k run (40ish min) will probably upload graphs from the garmin once a week or something
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10-06-2014 , 05:26 PM
sat dumbbell sesh

yesterday

set 1 12
set 2 16
set 3 12
set 4 12
set 5 Max (Min 16) + 4k run

last 3 reps of the 4th set and 6of the last where not great.
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10-06-2014 , 08:22 PM
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Also got a friend for Bruce on sat
Can't see her face. What is in frame seems .

Wtg Bruce.
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10-06-2014 , 08:34 PM
lol yeah but crazy doesnt show in a pic either way


couple pics from todays trails
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