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10-11-2018 , 07:30 PM
5 pounds a week may be doable at the beginning but will get harder pretty fast. The amount of calories your body needs to maintain a given weight decreases along with the weight. So as you lose weight, you have to either eat less and less to get the same loss, or eat the same for less loss (or somewhere in between)

The closer you get to your goal the more your weight loss per week will drop. This is normal and expected and you should plan for it. Like a person who is 20 lb overweight might really only feasibly expect to lose 1/2 to 1 lb/week without starving themselves.

And let me say, you shouldn't starve yourself. Not because it's unhealthy (although it is) but because it sucks and it's not sustainable.

Esp for someone as young as you, you should focus on getting there easily instead of getting there fast. You can get there without doing anything really terribly awful, you'll adjust slowly and learn how to feed yourself well without eating too much. There are a few great logs here in that regard, I'll see if I can find some later.

Myself, when I was in my mid-20s I weighed about 255. I got down to a low of about 170, but couldn't (well, or wouldn't) maintain it. I did this over a few years. I probably could have done it in 1 year, but speed was not my goal. I lost maybe half the weight and then spent some time on maintenance seeing what that was like (i.e. just trying to eat so that I did not gain weight). After a while I decided I was still fatter than I wanted to be and did another solid 6 mo or so to lose the rest. I don't actually remember the exact time frame.

But I could go look... I actually have daily weight records for myself going back 13 years. There are some gaps in there, and it should not be a surprise that the longer the gap is, the more the weight gain there was when I started again.

Daily weighing is not for everyone - don't let it get to your head if you do it, because you'll go up and down daily so you might "gain a pound" one day and "lose it" the next. I don't know if you play poker but since you're here maybe you do... I think of it like poker where if you "lose" $100 in a session, you didn't really lose $100. You made your hourly rate times the number of hours you played. If you play by the rules in your diet, then you'll "lose" some average amount every day even if the scale doesn't immediately reflect it.

I really can not stress enough that you should ease into it. Do things that you can do every day for the rest of your life, because it's not just like you can get to your ideal weight and then go back to eating what you want, you have to come up with a lifestyle that will support the weight you want to be for years and years to come.

Good luck!
10-12-2018 , 02:23 PM
entered into the 30 day body transformation challenge for 10k ALPHASHRED 30 DAY CHALLENGE

10k for first
2.5 for 2nd
1.5k for 3rd
1k for 4th
5-10th place receives an Ambrosia or HPN supplement pack

i obviosuly want to get 1st money 2 days left to enter if anyone wants a chance to win
10-12-2018 , 09:53 PM
Horrible start
10-13-2018 , 08:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xukxuk
Horrible start
can you elaborate
10-13-2018 , 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
5 pounds a week may be doable at the beginning but will get harder pretty fast. The amount of calories your body needs to maintain a given weight decreases along with the weight. So as you lose weight, you have to either eat less and less to get the same loss, or eat the same for less loss (or somewhere in between)

The closer you get to your goal the more your weight loss per week will drop. This is normal and expected and you should plan for it. Like a person who is 20 lb overweight might really only feasibly expect to lose 1/2 to 1 lb/week without starving themselves.

And let me say, you shouldn't starve yourself. Not because it's unhealthy (although it is) but because it sucks and it's not sustainable.

Esp for someone as young as you, you should focus on getting there easily instead of getting there fast. You can get there without doing anything really terribly awful, you'll adjust slowly and learn how to feed yourself well without eating too much. There are a few great logs here in that regard, I'll see if I can find some later.

Myself, when I was in my mid-20s I weighed about 255. I got down to a low of about 170, but couldn't (well, or wouldn't) maintain it. I did this over a few years. I probably could have done it in 1 year, but speed was not my goal. I lost maybe half the weight and then spent some time on maintenance seeing what that was like (i.e. just trying to eat so that I did not gain weight). After a while I decided I was still fatter than I wanted to be and did another solid 6 mo or so to lose the rest. I don't actually remember the exact time frame.

But I could go look... I actually have daily weight records for myself going back 13 years. There are some gaps in there, and it should not be a surprise that the longer the gap is, the more the weight gain there was when I started again.

Daily weighing is not for everyone - don't let it get to your head if you do it, because you'll go up and down daily so you might "gain a pound" one day and "lose it" the next. I don't know if you play poker but since you're here maybe you do... I think of it like poker where if you "lose" $100 in a session, you didn't really lose $100. You made your hourly rate times the number of hours you played. If you play by the rules in your diet, then you'll "lose" some average amount every day even if the scale doesn't immediately reflect it.

I really can not stress enough that you should ease into it. Do things that you can do every day for the rest of your life, because it's not just like you can get to your ideal weight and then go back to eating what you want, you have to come up with a lifestyle that will support the weight you want to be for years and years to come.

Good luck!
thanks for the in-depth msg I will take on what you said I know the weight will fall off at the start but will get harder to shift all I want is progress I will push as hard as I can and go day by day
10-14-2018 , 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedToMatter
can you elaborate
- "30 day fat loss challenge" is in stark contrast with your stated goal of "installing good habits"

- You don't seem to be logging

- You don't seem to be acknowledging the advice given in this thread

Everything points to a sprint right into a quick crash and burn
10-14-2018 , 06:19 PM
Going ham with a 30 day challenge right off the bat doesn't stop him instilling good habits after it's done and he could be in a good position to win starting at such a big number depending on how the comps set up.

He's also responded directly to just about every post afaics

Should definitely be logging calories here though.
10-14-2018 , 07:01 PM
He has no shot to win. Those things are almost always a sham. Money always is won by friends/family or even a nonexistent individual (so organizer keeps money).

And if it is real, its won by the guy who took the most "chemicals."
10-15-2018 , 04:09 PM
weight in day 8 = 320ilbs /22.8571 stone /145.15 kg

lost just over 5.1 pounds actually supprised I was expecting 2-pound weight loss

1 major hickup accidentally consumed meat trying to go vegan i just need to more
conscious of the items i am eating
10-15-2018 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
He has no shot to win. Those things are almost always a sham. Money always is won by friends/family or even a nonexistent individual (so organizer keeps money).

And if it is real, its won by the guy who took the most "chemicals."
its ok it was just another incentive to push me but i see what you mean
10-15-2018 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xukxuk
- "30 day fat loss challenge" is in stark contrast with your stated goal of "installing good habits"

- You don't seem to be logging

- You don't seem to be acknowledging the advice given in this thread

Everything points to a sprint right into a quick crash and burn
you don't know that i am i am just not being vocal about it in chat you seem to be very on edge based on first post
10-15-2018 , 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedToMatter
weight in day 8 = 320ilbs /22.8571 stone /145.15 kg

lost just over 5.1 pounds actually supprised I was expecting 2-pound weight loss

1 major hickup accidentally consumed meat trying to go vegan i just need to more
conscious of the items i am eating
Great start! Don't give up if you have any setbacks. Also, what animal did you eat and how did you accidentally eat it?
10-15-2018 , 10:51 PM
It is really common for people to log their exercise and diet in these threads, i.e. you post 1-2x per day with what you ate (with calories if possible) and any exercise you did, plus any other random thoughts.

The idea here is the leverage the combined wisdom of the forum. People will help you find leaks and mistakes and hopefully prevent misconceptions or bad choices.

I don't mean to be rude, but from experience being overweight is a combination of both weakness or inattention to diet, and misconceptions about the contents and satiety of various foods. You probably need help with both.
10-16-2018 , 05:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
It is really common for people to log their exercise and diet in these threads, i.e. you post 1-2x per day with what you ate (with calories if possible) and any exercise you did, plus any other random thoughts.

The idea here is the leverage the combined wisdom of the forum. People will help you find leaks and mistakes and hopefully prevent misconceptions or bad choices.

I don't mean to be rude, but from experience being overweight is a combination of both weakness or inattention to diet, and misconceptions about the contents and satiety of various foods. You probably need help with both.
He lost over 5 lbs in the last 8 days. Relax the **** up. He is (I hope) logging his intake for his trainer and himself to see. Posting it here adds nothing. I am, of course, assuming that his trainer is knowledgeable enough to mention that eating bacon pinwheels is a poor choice.

I've lost 30+ lbs recently and 98% of the effort I've put in so far has been put into eating a bit less. Less than 0.1% has been on worrying on whether the poasters on a poker website think I am weak.
10-16-2018 , 12:28 PM
Really not seeing what was so controversial about Rusty's post. This log smacks of one that will last one month tops. You're gonna just have to take our word for it, Brian. I'm happy a casual approach has been successful for you, but it isn't usually the case.
10-16-2018 , 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
It is really common for people to log their exercise and diet in these threads, i.e. you post 1-2x per day with what you ate (with calories if possible) and any exercise you did, plus any other random thoughts.

The idea here is the leverage the combined wisdom of the forum. People will help you find leaks and mistakes and hopefully prevent misconceptions or bad choices.

I don't mean to be rude, but from experience being overweight is a combination of both weakness or inattention to diet and misconceptions about the contents and satiety of various foods. You probably need help with both.
I'll start posting my meals in this thread the thing this the more I say the conflicting messages i am going to get I will post my daily workout stuff and today's meals at the end of each day and just not look at new messages until once a week 80% of the messages on this thread really helpful I just don't want the cancer to ruin it
10-16-2018 , 02:44 PM
today's meals 16/10/2018

breakfast a shake containing these ingredients:

spinach 50 grams
medium banana 120 grams ish
frozen mixed fruit strawberries raspberries 100 grams
1 table spoon ground chia seeds ( smash the **** out the chia seeds to absorb more of the nutrients
1 tablespoon of flax seeds do the same smash the **** out it
vivo life - perform salted maca caramel 50grams

mix that **** take half for pre-workout then half after or drink all if you don't workout after

Lunch

sweet potato 100grams ish
1 tin of red kidney beans 240grams when cooked
heinz beans the no sugar kind 1 tin 400grams i drained a bit of the sauce
nutritional yeast seasoning 5grams 1 tablespoon high in b12 and other ****

dinner

quinoa dry 100grams
heinz again tin no sugar
100 grams of peas
that yeast again 5g grams

snacks

nothing

drinks

3. x liters of water not finished day yet so I assume I will finish this then total will be 4litres

forgot the day came to about 1800 calories

ps i may tend to post the same meal a few days in a row because i hate change my autism is something i consider that hates change but i will try eat differently each day if it pisses the thread off

Last edited by NeedToMatter; 10-16-2018 at 02:49 PM. Reason: forgot
10-16-2018 , 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Great start! Don't give up if you have any setbacks. Also, what animal did you eat and how did you accidentally eat it?
it was like one of those Haribo sweets apparently it has pig fat or some bollocks in it

didn't really bother me but i really had no idea it would have it
10-16-2018 , 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renton555
Really not seeing what was so controversial about Rusty's post. This log smacks of one that will last one month tops. You're gonna just have to take our word for it, Brian. I'm happy a casual approach has been successful for you, but it isn't usually the case.
The one month thing applies to everyone who tries to lose weight. Most people fail.

I'm not casual about my diet, fwiw. It just happens to be the case that my problem (I tend to overeat late at night) had a simple solution.
10-16-2018 , 02:58 PM
Was your decision to go vegan made independently of this trainer, or did he/she suggest that you forgo meat for some other reason(s)?
10-16-2018 , 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedToMatter
ps i may tend to post the same meal a few days in a row because i hate change my autism is something i consider that hates change but i will try eat differently each day if it pisses the thread off

I eat the same thing daily as well, it's a great way to control calories/macros. Nothing wrong with that at all.
10-16-2018 , 03:36 PM
Yeah, my breakfast/lunch/afternoon snack are generally pretty similar, if not identical, over non-trivial lengths of time. I'm not sure how valid the decision fatigue "research" is, but transitioning a non-trivial number of my meals from something I need to actively think about to something I can just autopilot has helped me with compliance.
10-16-2018 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
The one month thing applies to everyone who tries to lose weight. Most people fail.

I'm not casual about my diet, fwiw. It just happens to be the case that my problem (I tend to overeat late at night) had a simple solution.
Outcomes can be inferred. If someone's started a thread with realistic, attainable goals using simple, effective strategies, he starts to have a better outlook than the 1 month average.

As to your case, just because it's simple doesn't mean it's easy. Most people require the accountability that a log provides in order to have the best chance of a good outcome.
10-16-2018 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renton555
Outcomes can be inferred. If someone's started a thread with realistic, attainable goals using simple, effective strategies, he starts to have a better outlook than the 1 month average.

As to your case, just because it's simple doesn't mean it's easy. Most people require the accountability that a log provides in order to have the best chance of a good outcome.
I'm presuming he is using the app his trainer suggested and that his trainer will provide feedback. Nothing is more motivating than being accountable to the person in charge of torturing you in the gym.
10-16-2018 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale
I eat the same thing daily as well, it's a great way to control calories/macros. Nothing wrong with that at all.
I usually eat 1 of 3 or 4 things up until dinner, where I eat with my family. About half the time I eat something in particular that I made, the other half I eat what they're eating and try to estimate it.

I think if you don't mind a lack of variety the carbon copy method is the way to go, keeps you from trying to figure something out. Making most of your own food helps too.

Actually now that I think about it, veganism probably helps *some* in this regard because you'll have to make almost everything you eat. Although that only qualifies if you're dead set on not violating veganism.
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