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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
Is Terroir still good? Seeing more bad reviews lately it seems like, and most seem to focus on one of the two main guys, who I do know to be not the friendliest sometimes (he once tried to make me look like an idiot for coming in with gum in my mouth). The other guy is great though; in fact too friendly so that now dates have questioned how I'm there so much to know him. Sometimes I worry that he's going to say "great to see you two again!" when I'm on a first date.
(This isn't a terribly serious concern, but it's a concern.)
I'll jump in here and disagree with ElD somewhat (he's spot on about going in with wine geeks).
If Natural wine is your thing, they still scratch that itch in a way. But, they aren't the only game in town anymore (granted they weren't that when Mark Bright was running Les Clos, but, that's not the point) and aren't as special as they were for a long while.
Any proper spot that really focuses on their wine list will have natural wines on hand, so the selection ends up being more spread thin. On top of that, a lot more SF somms are on the NYC natural train, so one can find these wines in a lot more spots than they could even 3 years ago.
My experience as someone ITB is that Terroir totally gives off the NYC-natty wine crowd dick move way too often for my taste. Personally I'm not the biggest fan of the wines, and the smugness on top of it pisses me off.
I'm only in SF 6-8x a year for work/certifications, so I may not necessarily be able to give a ton of in depth recs. But, I've been pretty turned off by Terroir the past few visits. jmo