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MMA/Fightin' Thread - Now with actual good fights!! MMA/Fightin' Thread - Now with actual good fights!!
View Poll Results: Who wins??
Tyron Lanket Woodley
7 26.92%
Stephen Randall Thompson
17 65.38%
Khabib Abdulmanapovich Nurmagomedov
21 80.77%
Anthony Armand Ferguson
4 15.38%
Mark Richard Hunt
16 61.54%
Alistair Cees Overeem
8 30.77%
Daniel Ryan Cormier
16 61.54%
Anthony Kewoa Johnson
8 30.77%
Christopher James Weidman
16 61.54%
Geghard Movsesian
8 30.77%

04-08-2017 , 11:29 AM
Definitely. He would have had that same response even without his own weight problems, but I also think Rumbles super nice-guy routine is arduously self-imposed in response to his own demons. Dude clearly has violent tendencies, but he's also clearly trying to combat them, and in turn not be judgmental of other peoples faults.

Kirby,



Say what you will about the guy, but Jon's troll-game is on point.
04-08-2017 , 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thug Bubbles
Definitely. He would have had that same response even without his own weight problems, but I also think Rumbles super nice-guy routine is arduously self-imposed in response to his own demons. Dude clearly has violent tendencies, but he's also clearly trying to combat them, and in turn not be judgmental of other peoples faults.

Kirby,



Say what you will about the guy, but Jon's troll-game is on point.
Good assessment of rumble. And lmao at Jones, I look forward to their back and forth if DC wins.

inside look at Weidmans weight cut. Starring Wonderboy, Ariel, Serra. Good stuff

04-08-2017 , 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pissychips
Pushing it a bit harder you can knock off over a stone, amazing that fighters even bother cutting weight and don't just get some dudes to hold a towel nice and tight and weigh in whatever they want.
i don't remember who the fighter was but I can clearly recall one other time a fighter tried to touch the towel. like four people surrounding him all at once said "don't touch the towel!" and he moved his hands.

he got away with this because everyone in the room was reeling from the drama of DC rolling in with 4 minutes left and missing weight in a title fight. even if the commissioners were aware of the towel trick, the drama of the moment had them too distracted.

he walked in with the towel in his hands and handed it to guys holding it for him at the height he wanted it, never letting go of his grip. the commissioners were also most likely staring at the digital readout from the scale and not even looking at DC. don't see him or anyone else getting away with this one again now that DC pulled it off.

i also think that dehydration caused DC to make a poor decision in this moment. had his brain been working properly he probably would have taken a moment and someone would have told him he had 2 hours to make the weight. but he made a snap decision and the lack of fluid in his brain could have really affected his decision making. this is gonna follow him whether he wins or loses the fight. i think he could even lose his TV gig over this. everyone is turning a blind eye right now because everyone wants to see the fight.
04-08-2017 , 03:08 PM
He's way too good (meaning polished) on TV for that to happen.

Look what KenFlo survived.
04-08-2017 , 03:12 PM
i hope he doesn't lose the TV gig, but i'd argue people will judge DC more harshly for blatant cheating to make weight than florian for his plagiarism.
04-08-2017 , 03:15 PM
Chael and Gil are on TV after popping. Chael was going to keep the UFC TV gig after the first time he popped too, it was the second one after the lying that got him.
04-08-2017 , 03:17 PM
i dont see rumble suing for the weight in shennanigans but that seems worth a try.
04-08-2017 , 03:20 PM
IMO weight cutting is the worst aspect of this sport for numerous reasons. It may be a difficult challenge to fix, but it is atrocious for the health of the fighters both in the practice of cutting and fighting dehydrated. It costs fights. It creates this ****. I know that lots of fighters consider it part of the game and don't have a problem with it, but that macho pov doesn't trump rational discourse on the subject.

We all agree that the 1.2 lbs is not an advantage to D.C., but it creates this idiotic issue and nearly cost the main event if not for cheating. In cases like this can't they just agree the rules and the way they are manipulated are bad? Is such a large percentage of this contest supposed to be dehydration mastery? I mean how much better would fights be if they were actually at their best and focused on training and feeling good leading up to the fight instead of getting as close to death as possible 24 hours before? It's ****ing lame.
04-08-2017 , 03:20 PM
ya, funny I was just thinking about Gil. if fox gets rid of him, DC could probably find work somewhere else. what gil and chael also have in common is both eventually claimed 100% responsibility and and served some kind of punishment/suspension. i don't think he will forever get away with "lulz, that wacky scale was off! "
04-08-2017 , 03:31 PM
Ok, I'm watching the Bellator feed (PSA if you didn't know it's going on) and when throwing it to commercial Grande said, "we'll be back faster than you can drop 1.2 pounds."
04-08-2017 , 03:52 PM
Q. Odds the NYSAC follow up & sanction DC? He was away for 2 minutes so unlikely he can pull the "I dropped a big deuce" line which would normally be dubious but impossible to disprove. Cormier blamed age and coming down from HW for weight struggles but he just needs to eat salad & he'd make 205 easily.

Rashad Evans fighting at LHW



Daniel Cormier fighting at LHW



Evans made 186 lbs. Cormier can *easily* make 205.
04-08-2017 , 04:04 PM
cormier is thicc he cant make 185 hah

he would probably die.
04-08-2017 , 04:40 PM
I think Rumble was happy that DC made weight. He wants the fight to be a normal title fight.
04-08-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
cormier is thicc he cant make 185 hah

he would probably die.
I had a body type like Cormier and weighed ~230 through my entire 20s. Now I weigh 185 and it's easy with diet and a little exercise.
04-08-2017 , 04:52 PM
Yeah, with the amount of exercise and training that dude must do it seems like he'd have to eat with a complete lack of discipline to be that fat. Like almost a purposeful amount.
04-08-2017 , 05:12 PM
Really looking forward to more posts from you guys about how you much better you are at hard work, discipline and nutrition than an olympic wrestler!

04-08-2017 , 05:21 PM
I don't work harder. That's the point. I quit eating pizza, fast food, and candy.

Edit: to add cutting back on alcohol

Last edited by rubbrband; 04-08-2017 at 05:28 PM.
04-08-2017 , 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Really looking forward to more posts from you guys about how you much better you are at hard work, discipline and nutrition than an olympic wrestler!

Hi D.C.!
04-08-2017 , 05:24 PM
It's also funny you bring up the fact that he's an Olympian because he missed out on a gold medal for the same reason.
04-08-2017 , 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Yeah, with the amount of exercise and training that dude must do it seems like he'd have to eat with a complete lack of discipline to be that fat. Like almost a purposeful amount.
He has top notch nutrition at his disposal. I think the television analyst job and the family life are the path of least resistance. I doubt he'll have problems like this focusing for Jones. He needs to retire if he's not totally committed.
04-08-2017 , 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
IMO weight cutting is the worst aspect of this sport for numerous reasons. It may be a difficult challenge to fix, but it is atrocious for the health of the fighters both in the practice of cutting and fighting dehydrated. It costs fights. It creates this ****. I know that lots of fighters consider it part of the game and don't have a problem with it, but that macho pov doesn't trump rational discourse on the subject.

We all agree that the 1.2 lbs is not an advantage to D.C., but it creates this idiotic issue and nearly cost the main event if not for cheating. In cases like this can't they just agree the rules and the way they are manipulated are bad? Is such a large percentage of this contest supposed to be dehydration mastery? I mean how much better would fights be if they were actually at their best and focused on training and feeling good leading up to the fight instead of getting as close to death as possible 24 hours before? It's ****ing lame.
That doesnt seems hard, some promotion are dealing with it already. The only problem is the transition to no cut weight that change every weight class ratings.

A few random weighting before the match and a final one right before.Thats all.
04-08-2017 , 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubbrband
It's also funny you bring up the fact that he's an Olympian because he missed out on a gold medal for the same reason.
04-08-2017 , 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
NYSAC should fine Cormier unless he has a real good explanation (and they should ask).
y? had he still been overweight with towel it wouldn't have mattered. He gets 2 hours to lose the weight in NY
04-08-2017 , 06:50 PM
Wait cups can be made of steel? That doesn't seem right.
04-08-2017 , 06:55 PM
dont they use steel cups in thailand?

      
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