Why is there a diving bezel on a digital watch, also needs more buttons.

If you are going to purchase a manual chrono, the display caseback is a huge plus imo. Getting to see the whole movement without the rotor is really cool to look at

As a thought, could you send your mom the $1,200 and have her ship you the MUT?

Hmm, so you like the sapphire sandwich Speedy over the classic hesalite with solid caseback? That was my original thought, as I figured it would be nice to see the best movement in my collection. Some people like the the classic just because it's closer to the moonwatch, but that doesn't matter to me. Neither went on the moon or are exactly the same as ones that did. But what I did notice in store is the sapphire crystal gives the illusion of a milky white circle around the edges of the dial that isn't there on the hesalite. For that reason, I was leaning toward the hesalite with solid caseback. The solid caseback does have a positive of its own in that it uses the room for some cool writing: "Flight-qualified by NASA for all manned space missions."

If there was a MUT Moon on C&C for $5,200, I think I could convince her to get it, but she's not going to go through a private party, and for me to ask for the money and do so myself takes away from what is a very generous gift. Plus, no matter how casually I try to wear the MUT Moon, I'm going to wear a Speedy more. Maybe I could get the MUT Moon as a wedding gift in a couple years, or if not there's another milestone birthday 10 years away.

Here examples of the milky ring of the sapphire crystal on a Speedy in comparison to the hesalite. Of course, the hesalite will be easier to scratch but could then be polished out. There is an older model with the hesalite and a display caseback if don't mind getting a watch from the 80s: https://www.crownandcaliber.com/prod...-10-ome-hq8b5t.





The Sapphire alone, milky border in full effect:

Another advantage for the hesalite is it has an Omega logo embedded in the middle that isn't there on the sapphire.

interesting, idk if the ring would bother me or if i like it. Will have to look into the difference in crystal material as well.

As far as the caseback though I greatly enjoy seeing the movement and value that over any writings or designs on a solid caseback.

I went into a shop expecting to want the sapphire and display caseback, but thought the hesalite without the ring looked better and saw benefit in the solid caseback. It's practical in that it has a dust shield that helps with anti-magnetism, it has the history and perhaps technical superiority in that it's the one approved by NASA for space, and it has a visual plus in the inscription saying so.

apparently there's some sort of timing function around the edge of the LCD



still seems kinda clunky and gimmicky

Ended up ordering the Speedy 005 new for $3,700 from Chitown Watch, or my mother did at my recommendation. I read on watch forums that Chitown was the way to go. It is gray market but they buy the watches from ADs looking to clear out inventory, so it actually comes new in box with an AD-stamped warranty card, at a cost of $200 more than Jomashop without the AD provenance.

Nice watch fella. I plan on getting one myself at some point but can't really justify it at the moment.

Thanks, it's making me actually look forward to this birthday rather than pure dread. It's very hard to justify a $4k watch, which is why it's nice to get as a gift!

Interestingly, I did reach out to two ADs in the LA area to see what price they would do, letting them know that I was leaning toward recommending my mother get the watch with an AD-stamped card from Chitown Watch for $3,700 out the door and delivered. One was through the salesman at the place I tried on the watch last week. Figured it was only right to give him a shot at the sale, and I liked him as we were both wearing ETA Tudor Black Bays. The other was a very prominent AD here, but one I saw on the forums gave the best discounts on Omegas in LA. I mentioned to both that my mother would be making the purchase and she was a potential repeat customer, as she obviously likes to give watches as birthday gifts and her husband has 25 watches, nearly as many as he does cars.

Note that the retail on the Speedmaster Pro is $5,250. The AD recommended on the forums responded that the best he could do was $3,940 plus tax, which would come to near $4,300. Good offer for an AD, but not good enough. I would have considered $3,900 out the door. Salesman where I tried it on responds the best he can do is $5,100 out the door. I responded oof, it's too bad they won't let you be competitive. This other local AD offered $3,940 plus tax. Within 45 minutes, the "best I can do" had been bettered by $500 to $4,599 out the door. Still a little more than $300 off the other AD.

Thanks, mom!

nice, wear it in good health man

You chose...wisely. Enjoy!

Congrats Gaddy. It looks really great.

i have been away from this thread for too long.

Thanks, guys. It goes really well with the Eames Lounge Chair! I was looking into selling my Oris Artelier Date, as I think the Speedy is going to take all its wrist time. But Oris doesn't seem to hold its value well at all. It seems I couldn't get even half of the $1,250 I paid for it in January of 2013. It was my first mechanical watch, the decision on which was my reason for joining the discussion on this thread. I still like it. I've always liked the guilloche dial, and the reason I paid up for it over the Hamiltons and Tissots I went into the AD to check out was that it felt like a step up in quality and great on the wrist. If I can't even clear $500, maybe I'll just hold onto it. But I still expect that in a year I'd look back having maybe forced myself to wear it over the Omega once or twice.

The "entry luxury" level brands like that never hold value, a 5 year old used piece has to be significantly cheaper than the gray market and Oris is gonna have a 30-40% gray market discount.

Yeah, I think the retail on it was $1,600, Jomashop had it for $1,050 and I opted to pay $1,250 out the door from local AD. I don't think this specific model has been made in years.

idk much about the models/brand really, but watchrecon has some listed in the 500's

https://www.watchrecon.com/?query=Ar...s=0&brand=oris

Yeah, the closest one it has to mine in the silver with bracelet and similar condition apparently sold for $575 without the box and papers, which I have. It's just not a watch that comes up much, as you can see in that there aren't any exactly like this one that have been for sale lately. I'd be ok getting $600 for it.

Don't think there was ever any talk here about the Rolex Cellini Moonphase. That dial looks pretty stunning, though I'm disappointed about the lack of display caseback. Also don't see myself ever spending that much on it. If I'm getting a moonphase, I'll go JLC MUT Moon for about $20k less. But was thinking of bringing it up to my wealthy step-father, who I think needs a moonphase in his collection.

On the one hand, Rolex does all sorts of stuff that's way more ostentatious than a display caseback (e.g. rainbow and leopard daytona) but on the other hand the plain, engraveable caseback is like one of their hallmarks.

I know, but this line isn't typical Rolex. One detail that stands out is the moon is made from meteorite.

Grey market looks like the successor model(Gaddy's looks like the pseudo-tuxedo model and that does seem out of production) is like $700-800 or so so 500-600 seems about right, assuming good condition. Box and papers is good for proving authenticity but I assume the warranty is long since run.

Oris is also like just the bottom edge of watch where it's worth getting it serviced, when you're selling a 5 year old watch the service history might bump the price up if it's been recently serviced but if it's never been sent back you're asking the buyer to commit to ~$250 out of pocket in the next year or so.

Long time lurker of this thread, first time poster. Just got this on Tuesday. I previously had a Swiss Army Maverick for 15 years and lost it at the golf course (I think) last week somehow. Hasn't been returned ****ing loved that watch. Wore it every day. We went through a lot together haha... Anyways, I know TAG has a bad rep, and it's quartz, but I absolutely love it.




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The black DLC 35th Anniversary G-Shock Porter is going for insane prices. Only 500 made so fat chance you back into one somewhere.



However, people have been finding the gold all-metal 35th Anniversary (GMW-B5000TFG-9) at brick and mortar Macys (below left). It's limited to (?) pieces and retails for $600 but can probably be flipped for around double that. Could be worth checking out locally if you're near a Macys. The stainless version (below right) is not a limited edition afaik.