The new seamaster looks amazing, but I don't pay a lot of attention to Omega bc every time I have worn one I feel underwhelmed. I want to like them, I just have had negative reactions to all I have tried.

This is a nice watch



Do I like it over a JLC Master Control + $1000 in my pocket ? No.

The Omega also a bit thick for a dress watch at 11.2mm vs the 8.5mm of the JLC.

idk, this seems sort of half-ass to me. I mean, omega already made this ****ing piece, re-issuing it with a new movement isnt a big deal.

I know this is sort of hypocritical since I posted a montblanc "retro" piece earlier but montblanc is actually new to the watch game, it's not really a reissue for them. idk, humans are weird and complicated, if you're an old, heritage brand you should be doing new stuff, if youre a new brand it's OK for you to do retro stuff I guess.

Tudor gets a pass for weird reasons I can't articulate.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Agree on the BB 58 being the real winner. It's everything the BB Steel & Gold isn't, in particular the brushed silver links on the bracelet instead of brushed gold.

Still waiting on Tudor to update the Oysterdate 79160. It's the closest thing I'll ever get to a panda dial Paul Newman.

Never taking that Omega over a JLC MC

And i know this didnt drop at basel, but Tudor getting the B01 chrono movement from Breitling (this is anecdotal, but I had a B01 Transocean and it was acurate, had instant date change, great feel on the pushers, 70 hour reserve, loved it) and dropping it in a rolex quality case and selling for 5k is just bonkers at that price.

end tudor rant.

That Omega's pricing is absurd. Forget a JLC, just staying with Omega, the Railmaster and Aqua Terra are cheaper and for the 3 hand versions their minute hands are the correct length. Also for a seven thousand dollar dress watch 11mm is on the thick side, I know Omega doesn't do thin as a brand but thinness would've been something that could distinguish that from their other dressy sport options.

What do you guys think about the 2018 Omega Seamaster 300m versus the model from the last few years? I'm thinking of getting one of the two, but the 2018 model doesnt come out until the summer.

And also blue or black?

Major differences for the 2018 model are 8800 movement, slightly larger case, wave dial, slightly fancier hands, date window at 6, and the display back.

what's the price difference? I'm not a fan of the display back but the 8800 + wave dial are both major plusses in my book.

Prices vary from place to place, but both seem around 4400usd. You can luck out with the old model which on sale on jomashop now for 2900~.

yeah if street prices are the same then it's no question to get the newer one. For a 50% premium, though, I'm not so sure. Honestly, for me personally I'm not really interested in the older model and I am interested in the newer one so the question for me would be if there's any other piece I would rather spend 4.4k on (answer: probably).

why is no one talking about the new SS Pepsi GMT with jubilee bracelet?

Econ,

I was more impressed with the Tudor GMT. The Rolex just got new (old) colors and a jubilee bracelet, what so special?

I've never really understood the fanfare that rolex gets when they make insignificant cosmetic changes.

That said, there were apparently some technical challenges with the red ceramic material that delayed coke/pepsi bezels for quite some time.

just kind of a big deal since the pepsi hasn't been available in stainless for a long time. i've been wanting to get a BLNR for the past few years, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. now i'm thinking of going with the new pepsi instead, although unlikely i will be able to get my hands on one any time soon.

Hey all, good news and bad news. The bad news is that I'm turning 40 next month. WTF. The good news is my mother wants to get me what will be my most expensive watch for my birthday, as she sees meaning in a timepiece to commemorate this passing of time. She was thinking of getting me an Omega Speedmaster Professional, as her husband has one that he likes so much he pretty much wears it exclusively now over about 25 other watches, including a Daytona. But she decided to give me the option of a watch at a similar price. She had been pricing the Speedy at about $3,500, though I'm thinking I could get her to top out at $4k -- 40 hundreds for 40.

Here's my current lineup of watches:


The Tudor Black Bay is currently my most expensive watch, and I wear it pretty evenly with the Stowa Marine Automatic and Orient Blue Mako USA II (oh, I replaced the Orient in the photo with this one). I wear the Seiko SARB017 next most, whenever I've got green on. I like the Oris Artelier Date but don't wear it enough. I rarely wear the Graf Zeppelin Hindenburg. Maybe I would more if I had a strap I liked more on it. And the red Orient Marshall was basically my burgundy watch before I got the Black Bay, so it's obsolete. If I get the Omega, the Oris probably becomes obsolete.

So, I've never considered the Moonwatch one of my grails. I like it's look and it's history. I suppose I haven't been coveting it because of my tiny wrists, which are about 6", and that I tend to shy away from push buttons and watch functions I will never use. But I hear the 42" Speedmaster wears smaller (planning to go out and try one later today). It's not much larger than the 41" Tudor and 41.5" Orient that I wear, and they are big on me but I think I pull them off. Also, let's face it, I don't really utilize any watch functions, including the time. The only real function that matters is for the watch to look good, and I think it does.

The two watches that have been my somewhat attainable grails are the JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon and the Rolex Milgauss blue dial, but those aren't going to be options here. Maybe for my 50th. Ahhh, I don't even want to think about that. My mother seems pretty set on buying from Crown & Caliber, as that's where her husband bought many of his watches. Here's what I see available on the site that peaks my interest.

Omega Speedmaster Professional 006: This is a newer model with the sapphire glass front and back, and the movement displayed. I know purists like the hexalite and solid back, but I think it would be nice to see the movement for the only watch I'd have with one really worth seeing. It also comes with the box and everything.

Omega Speedmaster Pro, From the Moon to Mars edition: Maybe a little gimmicky and certainly not as clean as the original, but I can't help but thinking it will seem pretty cool in the future as humans going to Mars approaches.

Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 15000 Gauss: This is one that caught my eye when it first came out, and when passing an Omega store in a mall back then I went in and tried one on. I liked how it felt, and I like the history of it being the first truly anti-magnetic watch. It's also COSC certified with a 60hr power reserve. But, while I like the look, I don't have a single piece of yellow clothing in my wardrobe.

Vintage Longines Conquest: Just throwing this in there as another watch that caught my eye on the site. From the 1960s with an 18k rose gold case. As a USC alum, I do like the word conquest. It's one of the main songs the band always plays.

So that's it from Crown & Caliber. But there are a couple new Nomos watches that had caught my eye around this price. They are the Nomos Tangente Neomatik 39 Silvercut and the Nomos Orion Neomatik 39 Midnight Blue.

The other Rolex I've considered beyond the Milgauss is the 114300 Oyster Perpetual 39mm. I tried one on a few years ago and liked the feel of it, but the one they have on Crown & Caliber is $5,300. I could try finding one from a private party closer to the price, but it's probably better to let my mother do the purchase. And I've never fully gotten behind the 114300. They seem a little plain to me.

I'd be interested to know what people think, or if there's anything else from Crown and Caliber at $4k that you think I should consider. I probably won't be getting another watch at this price for another 10 years!

gaddy - have you thought about Grand Seiko at all? Any wiggle room on crown and caliber?

Also, are you only interested in manual chrono's? IWC has some interesting pieces in your price range.

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/prod...-10-iwc-tmxky7

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/prod...-10-iwc-dghaxr

It's probably Crown and Caliber or new. Only other possibility is I ask her for the money and buy used myself, but I think she would prefer to give me an actual watch. So I went to a watch shop today and tried on the Speedy and the Nomos Tangente Neomatic 39 silvercut. I liked the way the Speedy felt on the wrist, more so than the Nomos, and didn't think the 42mm size was too much for my tiny wrist. I actually do think I like the solid caseback and hexalite better. Looking at the watch straight on, there's like a white glow border around the sapphire while with the hexalite you see the whole face. So now thinking Speedy over Nomos and even Rolex 114300 if it were an option. I just like how the Speedy looks better than the Rolex.

Bighurt, I'm not getting those links to work for some reason. What do you think of how the Speedy will hold value in comparison to the Seamaster Aqua Terra 15000 gauss linked? I know Speedmaster Pro's will always be in high demand, but they are making more every year while the first 15000 gauss watch gives a uniqueness factor.

hmmm, they were links to two different IWC watches. I would prob rather have an IWC than an Omega and all those are based on lemania/ETA/Valjouix movements anyways.

I would think if you get a competitive deal you should expect to get out with ~10% haircut when you sell, which i think both should accomplish. I have not looked into how competitive C&C is vs private sellers on watchrecon.


IWC PORTOFINO IW3910-01 WATCH
Item No. 10-10-IWC-L5ZMRA

IWC AQUATIMER CHRONOGRAPH AUTOMATIC IW3767-01 WATCH
Item No. 10-10-IWC-1CA69K

IWC INGENIEUR CHRONOGRAPH IW3725-01 WATCH
Item No. 10-10-IWC-DGHAXR

finding a way to save up $1200 and get that MUT Moon though...........

It seems like you like divers you could get a Breitling Superocean Heritage
https://www.crownandcaliber.com/prod...-10-brt-8y9f2q
or IWC Aquatimer(thabighurt posted the chrono, C&C has some three handers as well). IWC's pilot chronographs are also a potential Speedy competitor, but the Moonwatch is an iconic watch and it seems like it's what you want and what she wants to buy you, and it's in the price range.

Seems like you're overthinking it, just get the Omega.

Moonwatch seems like it would fit with your collection quite well and is obv an amazing watch all around. I'd be tempted to snap an Aquatimer, but almost certainly just go with the Speedy.

That first IWC is one I'd consider, but I lean toward the Speedy Pro. I already have two German watches in the Stowa and Graf Zeppelin, and having Schaffenhausen on my watch isn't as appealing to me as the writing on the Omega. It seems like C&C is more competitive on pricing compared to private sellers on watchrecon with some watches/models more than others. Like the new model 311.30.42.30.01.005 Hexalite and solid caseback Speedy Pro is $3,990 while the the 311.30.42.30.01.006 with the sapphire crystal and display caseback is $4,000. Only a $10 difference, and the 006 seems to be in better condition, when there's a thousand dollar difference new in store. I'd love to get the MUT Moon, but it just doesn't seem like it will work well. I'd have to just ask my mother for $4k cash and use it to get the MUT Moon for $5,200 + shipping/fees. I think that would take away from her nice gift. C&C has one MUT Moon in blue right now and is asking $6,800 for it. So even if they do get a silver dial, it's going to be about $2,500 more.

It would definitely be something different for me. I've never necessarily wanted a chronograph or a manual in my collection, but I like the look of this one and it's a classic. If I get the Speedy, I probably get rid of the Oris that was my first real watch buy. The Oris could still fill a role as my dressiest watch, but I only wear a suit 1-2 times a month and I'd wear the Speedy with a suit just as I do the Tudor and Stowa. I do feel the Speedy, Tudor, Stowa, SARB017 and Mako would give me a solid five watches with diverse looks for the rotation. They would all get wrist time. Eventually the MUT Moon will fill the true dress watch role, and then I'll really be set. Or then the Milgauss to fill the Rolex hole, and then I'll really be set.

Have you looked at the new Railmaster? It's probably the most direct Milgauss counterpart in the Omega line and if you like the Silvercut you'd probably like its dial.

http://www.luxuryofwatches.com/omega...BoCGgEQAvD_BwE
or
https://www.prestigetime.com/Omega-R...xoCXfMQAvD_BwE

2017 release so finding a used one might be difficult but it's in your price range on the grey market.

I like it, Fly. It's the sort of watch I would like to own, though I'm not sure it's the sort of watch I want at $4k. I think I like the face of the Speedmaster better, and the name on the face, and the history, though I know the Railmaster has a history as well. And the Railmaster looks like my style of watch, what I usually get. Its railroad tracks border is even similar to my Stowa. The Speedy would definitely stand out in my collection. I'd probably never get another chronograph as I'm not a big chronograph guy. Often, they make a dial too busy for my tastes, but the Moonwatch manages to do the triple register in an understated way that still looks clean. What I do like better about the Railmaster is the modern automatic movement with the anti-magnetism. But I've been thinking lately how amazing the Speedy would look on my wrist as I sit in my Eames Lounge Chair. Both came out within the period of a year, both virtually unchanged for decades, both made with usability a priority, both timeless. To mark a significant birthday such as this, it feels like the watch should be a classic, one you'll keep the rest of your life and will always be front and center in your rotation, a watch that can really go with any situation or outfit. The Speedmaster really fills that role better than maybe any other watch. That's part of the reason I dismissed the Nomos options in comparison. Even my grails, the MUT Moon and Milgauss, aren't nearly as good a fit.

Headscratcher:



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