Funny thing I witnessed Saturday night. We were all drunk and eating at a diner. I was with two of my close guy friends, his girlfriend and three of her friends who were basically unattractive. They weren't my type,etc. It wasn't about that.

My friend's girlfriend brought up the fact that she wants to set one of the girls at the diner up with our friend Conor.

Conor is strictly an acquanitance of mine. He is a numbers game kind of guy. He gets girls but they aren't too attractive. He's basically a meathead.

For the next 20 minutes everyone at the table ripped into Conor. The girl who was going to be set up fired off questions that everyone answered honestly. Perhaps what we were doing (and I basically said nothing) was a bit of an a-hole type play and ruining a potential meeting between Conor and this girl.

Some of her questions

Is he smart? "No, he's dumb as rocks."
Is he nice "No, he's selfish and a douche."

After everyone at the table destroying him for a good 20 minutes the girls interest in Conor was peaked. It was ridiculous to see how interested she had become.

It was funny, too, because she kept saying things like "Eww you want me to be set up with this guy?"

The only thing she liked that she heard was that he fit her height requirements at 6 foot 1.

There is something behind everyone bashing him piquing her interest, right?

I thought this may have fit in with that recent CNN article posted in this thread.

You probably sounded like, for lack of a better word, haters. Girls naturally gravitate towards guys who inspire insecurity in other guys. I had a pretty bad reputation wrt being promiscuous in college, and it was entirely self-fulfilling. Guys would say "I don't know why girls like [mittens], he's such an *******", and then the girl would be really intrigued because clearly there's something attractive about me, and I'm making random dudes mad enough to talk about me when I'm not there.

This may seem off the wall and wacky but I have a theory that if a guy gets a number from a girl and then 2-3 days go by (he's waiting the 2-3 days before setting up a date) the girl (who has his # as well) hasn't sent him a "reminder" text or call ("hey it was funny meeting you, how is your day...or some female rambling) then chances are good that he isn't going to get much. Girls don't just sit back and wait 2-3 days if they are really into a guy. They'll find a way to make time to start a conversation to make sure the guy knows to ask them out.

So if a guy gets a number on Saturday night and it's Monday or Tuesday evening and he's calling to set up a date, and the girl hasn't texted him since that night, I think he's already got one foot in the grave. If she was excited he would have already gotten a signal from the female via her texting him or having a friend tell the guy ("my friend really liked you"etc.)

I'm correct, right?

He's likely going to run into a flake situation if she hasn't contacted him, where she may think he's nice/decent guy/somewhat cute but she's not that into him and she's meh if she ever hears from him again.

No. You're nuts.

Too much analyzing.

I hate 2-3 whatever day rules. I hate following rules.

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This isn't a question its just a drunken lol moment I had to post. Last night went out and had a few too many long island iced teas. This girl started talking to me and we talked, we made out and she gave me her number. She actually put her full name in my phone so I just looked her up on Facebook. She has a public profile and it says shes in a relationship with a guy who definitely was right next to me last night when I was talking to her. The guy didn't look gay and I really don't think their facebook relationship is a joke.

I tried to get the girl to go back but she didn't want to and I believe she left with this dude.

WTF? Basically I think the girl has a boyfriend and neither cares if their significant other makes out with randoms in bars.

Could this possibly be? I mean you would think the guy would step in or the girl wouldn't have started talking to me.

And I guess I shouldn't call her.

If its a big enough problem for you to post on here then she needs to do whatever she has to to move out.

Jwhitt, that is pretty strange one way or another although I would assume that they aren't a couple. Simply asking her about it is probably the best way forward.

JWhitt88

I would be tempted to say the Facebook relationship is a inside-joke. That is by far the most likely explanation. The second most likely is that you are remembering wrong and that the guy was similar looking but not the same guy. Third option is that they are one of these polyamory / open / swingers couples -- I don't know there is some guy in OOT who claims it would be really hot to watch his GF get ****ed by another guy while he wears a chastity belt -- maybe you met him last night.

If you are slightly above average looking, in good shape, dress reasonably well but are shy and don't hit on randoms is it very standard to go months without getting phone numbers/hooking up/dating?

Do you meet many girls through your social group or anything? If you don't meet new girls then obviously it's standard to not get anywhere

You think girls are supposed to walk up to you and give you their number/spread their legs because you are above average looking and dress reasonably well? I wish so too.

it actually took me a little bit to realize this coming from college, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Absolutely, unattractive sloppy dressers but who are funny and out going will get way more action then a good looking guy who dresses well but is scared to open his mouth.

You forgot to be an actor/musician for this to work properly.

Ya, I'm still there, but it's a little hard to whine about.

It's a problem of mine, too. I just have a type of girl I like (smallish and cute) and I can't get around that. I don't run into that many of these type of girls. I am not attracted to girls taller than like 5'6 and really prefer girls 5 foot to 5 foot 3 and I don't seem to meet many of them.

I'm way too picky and it's all about the height factor, it's not about their looks necessarily. So if I'm going out 1-2 nights a week with a group and there isn't new girls in that group or ones that fit my preference it's a lost weekend, which happens very often.

1) Learn to approach girls you don't know

or

2) Forcibly expand your social circle by going out with new groups or joining co-ed social groups.

wtf are u super short or what?

I'm not, but hypothetically, if you are a 5 foot to 5 foot 5 21-27 year old single male how do you get hot girls?

Get moneyz

You get very small girls. I'm 5'6 and I don't do too bad, but obviously height is an issue. This is especially true in club settings where wits don't get you that far. I can usually do OK if talking is at all an option, but when it isn't I'm obviously overlooked even though I'm alright looking.

The more I can talk, the better I do. With girls 2" and more shorter than me it becomes a non-issue. Actually at some point (maybe 5'3 and shorter) I think it can be an advantage-ish unless they have a fetish for very tall guys. The reality is though that I'm really at the limit of the height that can get girls in casual settings without needing to "convince" them of worth.

But as with any other negative, you need to overcome it with charm. I can't see a guy 5'4 and shorter getting randoms at all.

I'd be very depressed at 5 foot.

I'm not sure you do, certainly not random hot girls..

I'd suggest taking this to the Student Life dating thread, they probably have more facebook experience than most of the regs here.

to be honest, I've never seen anyone below 5'8 do well with women and the guys below 5'10 who do well that I know are essentially the most charismatic people on the planet.

If a girl is 5 foot 3 and there are two guys going after her, one 5 foot 10 and one 6 foot 1 I don't see that huge of an advantage there in the 6 foot 1 height, but I could be wrong.