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View Poll Results: Who wins
Rousey
40 70.18%
Tate
8 14.04%
Alves
15 26.32%
Kampmann
23 40.35%
Benavidez
28 49.12%
Uru****ani
3 5.26%
McCall
10 17.54%
Johnson
23 40.35%
Ocean
13 22.81%
Mayweather
26 45.61%

03-06-2012 , 05:06 PM
she'd get destroyed by probably the top 50 if theres even that many fighters @ 135 =.=
03-06-2012 , 05:06 PM
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yesss
03-06-2012 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
she'd get destroyed by probably the top 50 if theres even that many fighters @ 135 =.=
a better question is

in which "organization" has a man fought at 135 who would be a dog to rousey?
03-06-2012 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
Having this discussion on Twitter. So I propose it to you:

"Ronda Rousey starts being competitive with the number ___ male fighter at 135 pounds."
Dunno how many are there?

When they start getting really really terrible is when she starts becoming competitive. Her striking defense looks pretty awful, and I think probably a decent blue belt male on the ground would do fine with her.

She should probably be able to Judo throw some guys, but blue belts+ would be able to get right back up and crush her on the feet. Her ground game looked to have a lot of holes, she's just a lot stronger than the girls she's facing it seems like. Wouldn't be the case with guys.

I have zero concept of how good 135ers are past the top 15-20. But as any decent 135er should wreck Ronda. If you're at least an average athlete and a decent blue belt or higher you would be a big favorite over her.
03-06-2012 , 05:11 PM
There are hundreds/thousands of guys fighting at various levels at 135 pounds.
03-06-2012 , 05:12 PM
The number is probably about 20,000. She is an underdog to every D1 wrestler, every judo black belt, any BJJ brown belt for starters. Her striking is atrocious so they just need the ability to avoid getting subbed.
03-06-2012 , 05:13 PM
even hundreds of thousands


fkn asia
03-06-2012 , 05:18 PM
The terrifying thing is how she called out Caraway, he responded (poorly) and not only does she get no blame for it, people actually think she would win. Its ****ing mind numbing ******ed how many people don't realize how exploitable her style is, and how she hasn't fought anyone near her level either. Mesiah fought right to her strengths and still was able to do quite well, just ****ing circle and box her and don't clinch, she will not shoot in, she has no striking.
03-06-2012 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
The number is probably about 20,000. She is an underdog to every D1 wrestler, every judo black belt, any BJJ brown belt for starters. Her striking is atrocious so they just need the ability to avoid getting subbed.
Pretty much. There was some people spreading rumors that she handled many male brown belts quite easy. Then one of Eddies students came in and said she has come to 10th planet 4 or 5 times, and is quite good but no she is not beating any higher levels guys, not even close.
03-06-2012 , 05:22 PM
The number is huge. I agree with dean that any 135 pound BJJ brown belt or higher is absolutely a favorite over her. I would say the very large majority of 135 pound BJJ purple belts are as well.

Her striking is pretty awful if we're putting her in a matchup against a trained male fighter of any kind. In a pure stand up battle, random 135 D1 wrestler vs Rousey, I'd still take the wrestler with no striking training because her defense is awful, he's much faster, much more athletic, and he can hit like 5 times harder than she can. male vs female is generally almost never competitive.

There's a loose theory that the best female athletes in the world at any given sport are roughly as good as the very best ~14-15 year old males. It's purposefully loose, but that should tell you something.
03-06-2012 , 05:26 PM
she looked to rely her size advantage a lot when it came to being able to get out of tough spots and clench/throws. She wouldn't have this vs 95% of the field.
03-06-2012 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
The number is probably about 20,000. She is an underdog to every D1 wrestler, every judo black belt, any BJJ brown belt for starters. Her striking is atrocious so they just need the ability to avoid getting subbed.
Should would be heavily favored over random D-1 wrestlers with no BJJ or striking training. Also assuming every BJJ brown belt and judo black belt can get her down before getting wrecked is a mistake. She does not have great striking but she would handily outstrike dudes her size who don't have any striking training.
03-06-2012 , 05:28 PM
i think it's safe to expand the "D1" wrestler to anyone who ever wrestled at any college 135 and up.

She would need to fight some bjj guy (blue-belt ish?) with bad enough striking to not knock her out while she gets to clinch.
On the ground i think she can beat quite a few guys.

She's not a favorite vs anyone who makes a living fighting that's for sure.
03-06-2012 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Should would be heavily favored over random D-1 wrestlers with no BJJ or striking training. Also assuming every BJJ brown belt and judo black belt can get her down before getting wrecked is a mistake. She does not have great striking but she would handily outstrike dudes her size who don't have any striking training.
What evidence have you seen that this would be true?
03-06-2012 , 05:30 PM
james toney?
03-06-2012 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Should would be heavily favored over random D-1 wrestlers with no BJJ or striking training.
not a chance, come on.

A guy with "no striking" (who's in shape, strong, a wrestler) can still just overpower a 135lbs girl unless she's a world-class striker or something, which she certainly isn't. And "world class striker" as a female is still quite lol.
03-06-2012 , 05:31 PM
03-06-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Should would be heavily favored over random D-1 wrestlers with no BJJ or striking training. Also assuming every BJJ brown belt and judo black belt can get her down before getting wrecked is a mistake. She does not have great striking but she would handily outstrike dudes her size who don't have any striking training.
Average BJJ brown belt has taken probably just as much striking training as her through out the years, aka not much. She is not wreaking anyone on the feet, and she looks pretty atrocious off her back.
03-06-2012 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by caught_clean
Average BJJ brown belt has taken probably just as much striking training as her through out the years, aka not much. She is not wreaking anyone on the feet, and she looks pretty atrocious off her back.
Agreed, her way of getting out of a tough spot was just giving her back and standing up because she is that much bigger and stronger.
03-06-2012 , 05:36 PM
I think it's interesting that DarkOne posted right after I did.

I would take, in a stand up only battle, a random D1 wrestler with no striking training to win against Rousey based on sheer athleticism. She is not a very good striker at all, and a D1 wrestler is a beast of an athlete.
03-06-2012 , 05:40 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume someone who is a professional mma fighter and trained striker would have a big advantage over someone who has possibly never been punched before.
03-06-2012 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
I would take, in a stand up only battle, a random D1 wrestler with no striking training to win against Rousey based on sheer athleticism.
That's absolute nonsense.
03-06-2012 , 05:43 PM
Even if a D1 wrestler's striking is slightly worse than hers (which I am skeptical of since hers is pretty awful and they are all outstanding athletes), the power differential means that every single one will take her out, if they can keep the fight standing. There's absolutely no way she is every stopping them, and a one clean shot from them would do the job.
03-06-2012 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume someone who is a professional mma fighter and trained striker would have a big advantage over someone who has possibly never been punched before.
her striking is terrible . tho .,...i agree with DO.
03-06-2012 , 05:44 PM
I think Rhonda gets competitve around top 500.

      
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