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07-12-2009 , 04:56 PM
I think Lesner will beat Fedor
07-12-2009 , 05:40 PM
doesnt fedor walk around at 230-240ish? it's not big...but he is def a giant killer. he's faired very well against his much bigger opponents; like bob sapp.

i think the next big heavyweight will come from the upcoming TUF series. some of those guys have sick athleticism and will dominate with the proper training. most of that cast is around brocks size. should be good.
07-12-2009 , 07:39 PM
Fedor is listed at 231 on Wiki so he'd probably be giving up ~50 lbs. to Brock.
07-12-2009 , 08:26 PM
Who's next for Lesnar?
Bring Fedor to the UFC.

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07-12-2009 , 09:21 PM
i don't think fedor has ever fought a big boy with the kind of wrestling skills that brock possesses. i'm a fedor nuthugger, but if this fight happens later than a year or so from now my money would be on brock.
07-12-2009 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
If he wanted to be booed to make more money he should have stayed in WWE where he would make around 3-4 times what he is making per year in the UFC.

actually, he's most likely making more in UFC. In the WWE, he'd probably be at around $1-1.5m a year with some PPV bonuses and maybe gate bonuses for something like Wrestlemania. I wouldn't doubt that he'll end up getting around 1-1.4m for his PPV bonus for UFC 100 alone. Plus, endorsement deals from the UFC will be bigger then the ones he'd get if he stayed with Vince

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Originally Posted by orange
Anyone know what weight Fedor walks at? How big of a weight difference would Lesnar/Fedor be?

fedor walks around 230-240ish, obviously he doesn't cut and looks to usually come into his fights at 225-230. Brock most likely came into the mir fight at 280ish. While I think fedor can beat Brock, brock certainly will present problems that fedor hasn't come across, especially as brock improves each fight
07-12-2009 , 10:36 PM
I enjoyed all but the WWE crap after Brock won. Other then, I dug the whole thing. And the top 100 fights was fun as hell to watch too. Hendo's knockout was so badassed.

I think it'll be awhile before Brock loses again. I think Fedor will take him, but only like 9/10 times, maybe 8. I was talking with my brother about it and he doesn't think there's a HW in MMA at all that can take him, just based on his size. The only current MMA guy that comes close is Lashley. Not sure his skills though.

BTW, neither me or my brother are anything other then fans and have absolutely nothing to base the above on
07-12-2009 , 10:47 PM
Henderson's post fight interview, while awesome in that S**T talk will never again reach that level, was really bad for MMA in general.
07-12-2009 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkingDonkey
Posted this in the SE thread also.

Buffer 360
Thats down but re: buffer 360 i found this on joe rogans utube channel. worth a look imo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeNA...e=channel_page

And LoL for people hating on Lesnar for his post fight actions and Hendo gets no **** for that late hit. What could do more damage to the sport? A guy goofing around playing up the the "bad guy" role trying to sell some tickets or an obvious late hit on a defenseless guy that could permanently damage another fighter?

Not that i think Hendo should be fired or anything i just find this brock outrage funny.

People need to get their priorities in check.

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07-13-2009 , 12:34 AM
I personally think Hendo should be fined some amount for his actions. If he would have said "I wasn't sure if he was out", then he gets a pass, but to admit that he knew Bisping was out and to do a flying elbow with all of his weight on Bisping's unconscious head and then make a joke of it? That is terrible for the sport, far beyond Lesnar's antics.

BTW, I love the fact that Lesnar has the Bud Light bottle prominently displayed during his post-fight conference. What the hell was he thinking insulting the UFC's largest sponsor??? LOL!
07-13-2009 , 12:38 AM
How much money would it take Fedor to risk his legacy and fight Brock? And on the flip side would Brock be willing to fight if he wasn't making nearly as much?

I just feel like it would cost ufc so much to get Fedor to take such a big risk when he could easily just continue fighting overseas for massive amount of money. Does Fedor care enough about being recognized as "the best"
07-13-2009 , 12:41 AM
In his Inside MMA interview with Bas, Fedor said he doesn't see himself ever fighting in the UFC. That might not mean anything though. At least not until his current contract is up.
07-13-2009 , 01:02 AM
I loved Brock's post fight antics.
07-13-2009 , 05:58 AM
a couple friends have claimed responsibility for instigating the post-fight middle-finger in the air 'FK YOU!' from lesnar, which is pretty funny
07-13-2009 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KDawg
actually, he's most likely making more in UFC. In the WWE, he'd probably be at around $1-1.5m a year with some PPV bonuses and maybe gate bonuses for something like Wrestlemania. I wouldn't doubt that he'll end up getting around 1-1.4m for his PPV bonus for UFC 100 alone. Plus, endorsement deals from the UFC will be bigger then the ones he'd get if he stayed with Vince




fedor walks around 230-240ish, obviously he doesn't cut and looks to usually come into his fights at 225-230. Brock most likely came into the mir fight at 280ish. While I think fedor can beat Brock, brock certainly will present problems that fedor hasn't come across, especially as brock improves each fight
Lesnar left the WWE with a 7 year 41 million dollar contract. This was independent of endorsements. The endorsement deals are actually bigger for top tier wrestlers plus wrestlers don't have to deal with Dana in contract issues. The UFC is very restrictive about endorsements, basically they take their piece. Lesnar took a paycut to try football and now MMA. The WWE is nothing more than silly entertainment but it pays its top earners very well.
07-13-2009 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Chesskid1
i think ya'll should move this thread to sporting events next month. browsing both threads is rather annoying and it would get alot more traffic there! (there's a big ufc 100 thread there if you dont browse that forum fyi)
I really hope this doesn't happen. It's nice having a sports thread with a very low percentage of ******s, that will never happen in SE.

Edit: Thinking about it, this is probably the only subforum on 2+2 that could have this thread without a flood of ******ed posts. All hail to the great masked man for creating this haven!

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07-13-2009 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hume
I really hope this doesn't happen. It's nice having a sports thread with a very low percentage of ******s, that will never happen in SE.

Edit: Thinking about it, this is probably the only subforum on 2+2 that could have this thread without a flood of ******ed posts. All hail to the great masked man for creating this haven!
+1

EDF is, and will continue to be, the home of MMA on 2+2
07-13-2009 , 11:01 AM
looked to me like henderson started the motion for his last strike before he realized bisping was out. he started to back off a split second before the ref intervened iirc. i thought he was just playing to the crowd in the interview.
07-13-2009 , 11:05 AM
what henderson did was obv ok, it's not like he went after bisping sokodjou style
07-13-2009 , 11:19 AM
Yeah Hendo was fine. His comments may have been in poor taste but there was nothing wrong with his actions.

The occasional extra hit after an opponent is out is just something that has to be accepted in such a fast and crazy sport. We've seen just as many fighters recover uber-quickly as we have seen take extra hits after they've been KO'ed.
07-13-2009 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ashecounty
Lesnar left the WWE with a 7 year 41 million dollar contract. This was independent of endorsements. The endorsement deals are actually bigger for top tier wrestlers plus wrestlers don't have to deal with Dana in contract issues. The UFC is very restrictive about endorsements, basically they take their piece. Lesnar took a paycut to try football and now MMA. The WWE is nothing more than silly entertainment but it pays its top earners very well.
However, in the WWE, you are on the road something like 250 days a year and physically damage your body more (they wrestle 2 or 3 times a week sometimes and Brock nearly broke his neck in a match, something that will never really be a risk in MMA). Training MMA in your home town most of the year is probably a much more enjoyable job and if he can make even remotely near the WWE money, he's probably very happy with his decision.
07-13-2009 , 11:38 AM
One of the Yahoo MMA columnists mentioned that Lesnar was expected to make in the ballpark of 3 million for UFC 100 after bonuses, PPV cut, endorsements, etc. Assuming he fights twice a year it's not unreasonable to say that he's making 5-6 million.

That's pretty much spot on with the WWE contract. However the WWE would be more reliable money since it doesn't rely on results and winning real fights. But like DKsr mentioned, even if he's taking a slight pay cut, Brock is probably 100x happier and safer.
07-13-2009 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zacd
One of the Yahoo MMA columnists mentioned that Lesnar was expected to make in the ballpark of 3 million for UFC 100 after bonuses, PPV cut, endorsements, etc. Assuming he fights twice a year it's not unreasonable to say that he's making 5-6 million.
if he keeps winning i wouldnt be shocked if he starts making 8 figures a fight.
07-13-2009 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gehrig
if he keeps winning i wouldnt be shocked if he starts making 8 figures a fight.
If Brock helps the UFC break the 2 mill PPV buy mark, this is very possible.



So I read an interesting, Sherdog-esque idea today that I can't shake out of my head and I'm wondering what you guys think. If Maia were to lose to Marquardt, what are your thoughts about a move to 170 for him? He's not exactly a shredded MW and 170 desperately needs some new blood. Plus the top of 170 seems to be packed with grapplers at the moment, which I think obviously favors Maia.
07-13-2009 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zacd
Yeah Hendo was fine. His comments may have been in poor taste but there was nothing wrong with his actions.

The occasional extra hit after an opponent is out is just something that has to be accepted in such a fast and crazy sport. We've seen just as many fighters recover uber-quickly as we have seen take extra hits after they've been KO'ed.
Well, it was enough to get a stern talking to from Dana. And like I said, I realize he quickly pounced on him after the first punch, but when he said that he knew Bisping was out after the punch but he wanted to "shut him up a bit". We're talking about fighter safety here and that elbow was extremely dangerous to a defenseless opponent. It didn't seem heat of the moment to me, rather a calculated move trying to cause serious harm.

      
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